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Some History, Experience, and Facts

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Well; regardless of what you say, the quote I provided is just as clear as anything you have submitted; and when all is taken in context; she was only addressing certain individuals, not the entire church or the entire GC.

See T.M.360-365. On page 361 Mrs White speaks of this serious offense as "the high-handed power that has been developed as though position has made men gods makes me afraid and ought to cause fear."

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The same "high-handed power" is at work in some individuals, but not all; and not just in leadership.

If the truth were to be known; your out of context quotes disallow the actual intentions of Ellen White in the GCB documents. Specifically, from 1902, July 1st, we can see that her major emphasis was always in telling the church members to find ways of supporting the ministers, and telling the ministers to make their personal relationship with God a priority. Some did. Some didn't but the GCBs were never intended to be turned against the church as you have done here, and condemn us all to oblivion. No matterwhich year from the GCBs you want to look at; Ellen White did not encourage a new church or leaving the church, or any such blanket condemnations. This quote illustrates her major emphasis through all years of these GCBs...and yes; I can prove it for I have them all too. Note:
 
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Here is something from 1901 that you appear to have missed in all your "studies:" We must follow the constant example of Ellen White to lift up people in the church to Jesus; and to point them to His Word
 
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You have had them for 25 years! All right then, can you look up page 25 of the 1901 Bulletin and give us the quote on that page from Mrs. White where she is talking about the need for a new organization.

Please thank you.

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Well here is something you forgot about in all your "careful" studies: See above post for full context. But note; this is from the GCB, 1901
 
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Interesting to say bomblast which means to explode, I like that. It suddenly shakes your feather and I wonder why? What you continue you speak about does not upset me instead it sadden me to write the differents in what you state, that all. You have a beef with a lot of people my friend so if you do not agree just state why kindly and move on. You cannot state at anytime of my bombast episodes that I called you bad names or was rude to you at all! I got a little upset at first with you and another person but apologized and realize that I had no right. Only the HOLY SPIRIT can lead a person to accept truth not me. If you would just cool down and allow the HOLY SPIRIT to bomblast you I thing you will come out smoking. I love you though and I hope you love me. I do not mind that you do not agree with me but calling me a JW was a little to much with all the info I know about my own church. But it you and what should I expect so what do you have to say now good friend. I hope you would pray with me so that we can truly study together.

Happy Sabbath,
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rainbowinthesky:

I am not here to call anyone names but you and me and castaway have right to present our views. If it truth the HOLY SPIRIT will be Present. Castaway needs pray as we all do he just likes to stay within the box and for years I was like that but questions continue to bother me and I finally heed the call.

Have a happy Sabbath,
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LOL; I don't smoke; I don't have feathers and I am not "hot" so how can I cool down? It's amazing how much some think they can read "between the lines."
 
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What "box?"
 
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I don't smoke;

Who said you smoke?

I don't have feathers and I am not "hot" so how can I cool down?

I never called you a chicken or a bird aswell. However you are hot though just look at the words you say. You know I did not read everything when I first wrote back and I was happy when you apologize to rainbowinthesky. But soon as he quoted something that you did not agree with fire or words was out of your mouth. Now that's hot my friend. Why do you always say someone is not an SDA because they don't accept things the way you do???? That's hot too!​

It's amazing how much some think they can read "between the lines."

I do not read between lines but I read what people say and you my friend are caught up with SDA doctrines and traditions sad to say. But I feel ya and hope that we can get an understanding.​

What "box?"

That box that everything SDA leaders says is gospel truth. rainbow is telling you the truth about Jones; he was force out of the church so was Waggoner and Houteff. I guess now you will call me a Sheppard Rod ask some of my church friends here who I work to get them away from the Sheppard Rods. Did Brother Houteff have some truth, he did but he begins to wander off. I read both of his books and the second one was totally left field. But if I hadn't read them I would not have known what was correct or not! Jones and Waggoner were teaching the Righteousness of YAHSHUA and if the church had continue to listen to what they were teaching they would have truly understood and accepted the Feast Days. Also, there was suppose to be either two or three presidents over GC but they did not listen to EGW about that as well. The church did need reorganization but like you they did not like to see change. That my friend is staying within the box. I have never asked you to believe what I so call bomblasted you with every Sabbath not Friday. I asked you to check out what I presented and again you cannot accuse me of calling you out your name. I am peaceful but I guess I bomblast the truth with power of the HOLY SPIRIT. What I pray is that you would just think about things first, then ask questions, write them down, look up Scriptures or read the ones I presented, take time to look up words to find out their original meanings, check the historical facts and don't just take for granted things just because the leaders say they are true. If you still don't believe it is okay we just move on. But don't get upset if I present to others here you give your view and allow others to give theirs. Soon faith will eventually come to those who hold fast to what is peaceful, kind and loving. Remember the greatest of all is love! Blasting off!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

PS: I write a lot on Sabbath evening because I am mostly busy taking care of my eighty eight year old mother. She is find but she has dementia and have suffer two strokes. I almost lost her but she is a strong spirtual minded woman. She touches everyone who comes to aid her through home health. I wish you could meet you would melt with joy because of her loving smile and cheerful hugs alway appreciating what anyone does for her.
 
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I don't mind if you think I'm "hot." or if I am packaged in the wrong "box." But I will say one thing. I would indeed enjoy meeting your mother. From what you have said about her in little bits and pieces here on the forums; she sounds like a very special lady. And she needs someone with a strong faith in Christ to help her and guide her through this trying time she is having.
 
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Castaway:

She found the Sabbath on her own while she was carrying me. My father died on the Sabbath and he was not going to go to church that day. I was seven years old. My mother gave the letter she was holding that my older brother wrote. It shook him and he went to Church! When she joined the church she send my brother to oakwood academy, I also went much later. My aunt came to get my dad to show her about a refig he had, my mother asked he not to go. We had just came home from church and he stood up to be baptized the next Sabbath. He did not come back he fell to his death at my aunt's home. My mother worked three jobs to keep us in church school. I know you thing I am different but I am not. My mother taught us to study for ourselves like she did. Her baptist minister tried to change her mind about the Sabbath. When we left Atlanta and moved to New Haven my mother had Bible studies with every religion group under Protestism you could think of but she would asked them if they keep all the Commandments of ELOHIM. She said God because that's what she believed at that time. But no one could give her an answer until by a strange incident at work a man told her he recieve Bible studies from a couple. My mother also had dreams and when they brought the 20 Century Fox and we saw the Second Coming of YASHUA we all shouted this is your dream she had told us about. We always had worship even being Baptist. My mother before she became sick we were in New Orleans. She push me to speak up in Sabbath School the head minister over the Ministerial of GC was there in 2005. The subject was on Daniel and I spoke up about the errors of Uriah Smith and that Sabbath School was on fire. My mother always believe in me even when I left the church, she pray for me. I am crying now because she never gave up on me. I love her so much and even now she witness, she is not mean at all. I first pray and asked ELOHIM to heal her because she has given so many Bible Studies and worked with many Pastors and Evangelist over the years. I want her to work with me now but you know she does, by her attitude when folks come into our home. I am not here to argue with you or anyone but I present this message because I know in my heart what YAHWEH has done for me. I must go now because the tears just won't stop. Pray for me and my loving mother. Good night!

Happy Sabbath,
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Castaway:

I know you thing I am different but I am not. My mother taught us to study for ourselves like she did.
No. I don't think you are "different" in that sense. You seem like a very sincere christian. I enjoy your stories about your Mother, and the testimonies therein. We only have differing opinions on Bible doctrine. Thats not always so bad.


I know in my heart what YAHWEH has done for me. I must go now because the tears just won't stop. Pray for me and my loving mother. Good night!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri
From your posts about your Mother; it is obvious that you have given yourself to the Lord to be His wholly and altogether, and that He has taken you and has begun to mold and fashion you into a vessel unto His honor;and that your one most earnest desire is to be very pliable in His hands, and to follow Him wherever He may lead you, and I rejoice that you are trusting Him to work in you to will and to do of His good pleasure. So of course; I will pray for you & your mother.
 
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