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Do you agree that Jesus purpose was fulfilled as prophesied in the Old Testament?
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Do you agree that Jesus purpose was fulfilled as prophesied in the Old Testament?I mean that I do not believe there was a literal resurrection of Jesus, no bodily resurrection. I think Jesus died, and that was it. He died, the same as everyone else dies. To me the resurrection is a metaphor.
It's fine if you disagree with me. We can disagree agreeably.
It is ok to be a Christian and gay.I do not plant my own gardens... I do not weave my own clothing... and me personally, I dont eat shellfish or any fish(besides bass) but that is purely preferance, and all food is now to be considered clean anyway... and as far as me condemning you, that is surely not the case. I believe you can turn away from your sins as I struggle to do... you assume that because I speak against homosexuality that I condemn homosexuals as if they were worse than others... well theyre not worse, theyre exactly the same... sinners in need of a savior, who only asks for repentance and faith.
The only time I open my mouth against homosexuals is when they begin to preach that it is ok to be a christian and gay, I am called by God to judge those who call themselves brothers and sisters in Christ, and they are called to judge me... not to put each other down but to help each other remain in the truth, but I am sorry my friend what you preach is no such truth...
I mean that I do not believe there was a literal resurrection of Jesus, no bodily resurrection. I think Jesus died, and that was it. He died, the same as everyone else dies. To me the resurrection is a metaphor.
It's fine if you disagree with me. We can disagree agreeably.
What's odd is some of the posters claim the Bible they hold in their hand is inerrant. They then deduce that there could not have been translation errors. Now they are silent.
So you don't believe you will be raised from the dead either?
You don't believe that Jesus was seen by over 500 people after His resurrection?
You believe in the ascension?
Why should she?
There is not a smidge of proof that any of that happened.
I mean think about it. God is here walking among us, resurrected himself after a public death, and his resurrected body walks around talking to people and ascends to heaven and yet NO ONE without a christian disposition found it significant enough to record these things??
I think it's easier to just admit it never happened.
Onemessiah.Why should she?
There is not a smidge of proof that any of that happened.
I mean think about it. God is here walking among us, resurrected himself after a public death, and his resurrected body walks around talking to people and ascends to heaven and yet NO ONE without a christian disposition found it significant enough to record these things??
I think it's easier to just admit it never happened.
Since this is a debate forum, it is odd to say that you are not looking for a debate. Debate is what this particular forum is for.
No. I don't.So you don't believe you will be raised from the dead either?
You don't believe that Jesus was seen by over 500 people after His resurrection?
You believe in the ascension?
Okay, that seems fine. But this particular forum section is entitled "Debates on homosexuality." You are certainly free not to debate if you don't wish to. Others are going to debate, since this is specifically a debate forum.Foru.ms is a forum for discussion or debate. I choose discussion, not debate.
It is okay to be Christian and be gay. You want to drive gay people out of the church? When did Jesus ever call for that?I do not plant my own gardens... I do not weave my own clothing... and me personally, I dont eat shellfish or any fish(besides bass) but that is purely preferance, and all food is now to be considered clean anyway... and as far as me condemning you, that is surely not the case. I believe you can turn away from your sins as I struggle to do... you assume that because I speak against homosexuality that I condemn homosexuals as if they were worse than others... well theyre not worse, theyre exactly the same... sinners in need of a savior, who only asks for repentance and faith.
The only time I open my mouth against homosexuals is when they begin to preach that it is ok to be a christian and gay, I am called by God to judge those who call themselves brothers and sisters in Christ, and they are called to judge me... not to put each other down but to help each other remain in the truth, but I am sorry my friend what you preach is no such truth...
I had to make another comment on both your posts.Originally Posted by Brieuse
What's odd is some of the posters claim the Bible they hold in their hand is inerrant. They then deduce that there could not have been translation errors. Now they are silent.
Originally Posted by Onemessiah
Surely an omnipotent god would find a way to preserve the accuracy of his message, especially given the seriousness of the matter? I mean, billions of eternal souls are at stake here.
"With god, all things are possible....."
I mean that I do not believe there was a literal resurrection of Jesus, no bodily resurrection. I think Jesus died, and that was it. He died, the same as everyone else dies. To me the resurrection is a metaphor.
It's fine if you disagree with me. We can disagree agreeably.
Well, yes, we're debating translations of the Bible, and as you saw from the link, those are some of the errors.For somebody who has a Greek signature, I'm really surprised that you don't know that the Greek language we get the New Testament from doesn't have punctuation like the English language has.
So, assuming that these punctuation problems really did exist, that tells us that the problem isn't with the Bible, but with the translation.
The second problem is that you've taken a perceived problem in one verse and run with it, not bothering to look into the subject at all.
In Bible study, there is a principle called "the analogy of scripture" (also sometimes called the "harmony of scripture"), which means simply that scripture interprets scripture and that the Bible should be taken as a whole, not just using prooftexts here and there to back up what you already believe.
In this case, rather than taking one verse with an apparent problem and choosing to make a doctrine around it, you should have grabbed a concordance and looked up all of the references to the resurrection.
You would have seen it stated over and over that the resurrection was, indeed, on the first day.
You would have seen that the disciples met on the first day because they knew (and remember, they're the ones who were with Jesus) that this was the day that Jesus rose.
Well, yes, we're debating translations of the Bible, and as you saw from the link, those are some of the errors.
It is ok to be a Christian and gay.
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