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Hallelujah! You should do a FAQ/sticky on the state of the dead after the dust settles down. We should do this for all our unique doctrines.DL, did you notice that the person that called you a conspiracy theorist is constantly posting about conspiracies WITHIN the Adventist church? Like hiding the minutes from a 1919 meeting?
Yeah.
It's only a true conspiracy when others agree that it is, right?
I always believed in God and Jesus and I always felt a heavy burden on my heart to do what was right. I didn't always do it, and I'm very open about that, but I never quit hearing the still small voice....praise God!
Even though I believed in Them, I didn't really always LIKE Them. What I mean is, I couldn't understand eternal torment in hell. I was so relieved when I read the bible, but still confused about some of the verses that seem to imply eternal torment.
It hit me right away that bible study is imperative, not just a "good idea".
One of the first Sabbath school classes I went to talked about HOW to study the bible (according TO the bible).....and I am so grateful that it was one of the first ones because that study, above all the others, helped me the most.
The next study was the state of the dead.
Now I shared how I felt about that, that I had read the bible just to prove my mother-in-law WRONG, right?
Well there it was facing me like a brick wall and I can remember literally thinking to myself "okay Lainie, now is the time. You either totally believe it or you don't believe it at all and you need to find another church."
Line upon line, precept upon precept....I knew it was the truth. I was compelled to listen, led to listen, and now it is one of my favorite subjects because it just makes SO MUCH SENSE!
I think I've debated that subject more than any other, and although most of the time I felt like I was wasting my typing skills, I did have someone from GT tell me recently that they lurked on a thread where I was talking about it....and now they're Adventist.
I read so many stories that the evangelists came to town and converted and baptised hundreds in a campaign. The new converts happily joined their new church. But a year or so later, where are they?Night mentioned that people should be flocking to our church in droves, and I still contend that the reason they don't is because of our message about the state of the dead. People WANT to believe in the fairytale.
However, there are just as many people that cannot understand a God that would torment the wicked through the ceaseless ages of eternity, and I think that is a VERY important message to get out there...that He DOESN'T.
Up until recently we couldn't talk about that subject on here, and now that we can, I haven't had as much time to come here.
I need to make time because God has obviously paved the way for us to get that message out <hint hint to the rest of you>.
Give people the God they KNOW exists, but struggle with because they feel He isn't that merciful. Every single one of us has lost someone that wasn't a Christian and we know what it's like to imagine them in agony, suffering every second.
Them sleeping is BETTER than that fairytale we hear so much about!
Once they accept that biblical truth, the rest falls in line and you realize it all really is a conspiracy theory. Satan mixes lies in with the truth, and when you realize just how subtle he really is.....wow.
One more thing (lol...I'm sorry I'm Chatty Cathy this morning)....
I grew up being told to obey the 10 commandments. There wasn't any wiggle room, you obeyed them because you love God and that's definitely what Baptists teach.
What's funny is that my childhood pastor went through all ten of the commandments one Sunday and got to the Sabbath commandment and said "you're obeying that one right now by being here."
So as I read the bible for the first time, there was absolutely NO doubt in my mind that the Sabbath was still very important. I read how Christ fought the Pharisees so adamantly about it, etc. but I didn't realize that Saturday was the seventh day.
I've mentioned before that things just fall in my lap when I'm praying for answers, and the Sabbath was like that too.
My son was watching Noggin and every day they go through the days of the week and they'll say something like "today is Saturday. The seventh day of the week!"
I'd heard it before on that station, but I had JUST finished reading about Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for trying to say He had broken the Sabbath when it came on one day.
So I got online and looked, and sure enough, Saturday is the 7th day.
I know this probably sounds lame to some of you, but I always believed that Sunday was the last day of the week. That's why school started on Monday,etc. Saturday and Sunday are always referred to as the "weekend".
I'm being totally serious here. We never went over what order the days fall into in school, so I just assumed Sunday was the 7th day.
When I first joined this site, I started a questionnaire where you can win blessings, etc One of the first questions I asked was "which day of the week is the seventh day?"
You would not believe how many people clicked on SUNDAY! So I definitely wasn't alone!
There really are some people out there that think Sunday is the 7th day, so they do believe in the commandment and want to keep it, but don't have a clue that they're doing it on the wrong day! I was one of 'em.
I couldn't find the post where Moriah said the CUC president taught her the art of demon possession. CF search function is a joke! I also have a video recording of Willian Loveless (CUC pres.) training the new pastors with such craft.Wow. There's a lot of stuff I don't think I wanted to know about my new church. *lol*
There was a time I honestly thought that everyone within the Adventist faith believed everything it taught, because it was just simply true. I thought it was a perfect church. Although waaaay off, there was some nice qualities of being in that nieave place.
You mentioned CUC. I've been campaigning with my family to go there for several months, after what I believe to be a sign from God that showed me to do so. (Lonnng story there). Where did Moriah talk about that?Getting slightly confused on whether it'd be a good idea to keep up the idea to go or just go to a secular Uni instead.
Nonetheless, I completely agree. For every bit of corruption that Satan manages to weasle into our Church, there will be God bringing in more of His Truth. For every one that leaves, another will join. He's not going to let Satan win completely, right?
The thread is titled, "Where is Jesus Now?" or something along those lines ... I can dig it up if need be. But I am not sure i posted the whole story there. my consciousness is fragmented, in shards, i can say something and then the next moment forget what i am speaking about.... you must understand ... this is not an "affect" but a reality i live with moment to moment, that and .... and ..... ........ .....................I couldn't find the post where Moriah said the CUC president taught her the art of demon possession. CF search function is a joke! I also have a video recording of Willian Loveless (CUC pres.) training the new pastors with such craft.
expose me then. strip me bare. subject me to judgment. matter (mater) of FACT come FIND ME and SLAY ME if you so desire, you will be doing me a favor.One of our callings is to expose the wickedness of the man of sin. Unfortunately very few people are willing to see.
About going to CUC, if that's what you want to do, go for it. Just be prepared for the potential problems. If you're consecrated, God will lead and protect you against the temptations.
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