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If I am understanding you guys correctly it sounds like what we believe doesn't matter (as you have a right to say) and its written off as illogical and circular reasoning.which points?
It looks like you are all suggesting that the EO could hold up to this level of scrutiny. I would be very interested in seeing that.
Sure.
How does that guide on authority?
It looks like you are all suggesting that the EO could hold up to this level of scrutiny. I would be very interested in seeing that.
If I am understanding you guys correctly it sounds like what we believe doesn't matter (as you have a right to say) and its written off as illogical and circular reasoning.
So you're saying you've no evidence to back your point (whatever that is) and you don't understand why you should offer any because no other part of Christianity is subject to evidence too?I am surprised that you don't understand that the same scrutiny could be applied to any part of Christianity.
Including Churches, Councils, Apostles, even our Lord...
It looks like you are all suggesting that the EO could hold up to this level of scrutiny. I would be very interested in seeing that.
I would suggest starting a thread on this topic in TaW if you want sufficient feedback and attention drawn to your question WRT to the EOC. Perhaps something like "is orthodox christianity logical?" or something along those lines. If you just want general feedback, you can post it in the main forums, if you want to discuss/debate the issue, you should post it in the sub-forum "St. Justin Martyr's Corner". Alternatively, you can start a new thread in GT which addresses both Orthodox and Catholic and say something like, "Is tradition more logical than sola scriptura?" Just an idea.
If I am understanding you guys correctly it sounds like what we believe doesn't matter (as you have a right to say) and its written off as illogical and circular reasoning.
I am surprised that you don't understand that the same scrutiny could be applied to any part of Christianity.
Including Churches, Councils, Apostles, even our Lord...
"X" is my opinion. It's right. I'll say it again. You want evidence - here's a general web-site that you need to trawl through to find what it is I'm not sure I believe in. That's not good enough for you? You can't demand evidence because you don't have evidence for some unnamed position somewhere else held at some other time!
What is hypocritical? How are they atheists points? The Scripture did come to be because people wrote it. Either the people who wrote it made mistakes in it or not. God cannot be inspiring for part of his revelation and not inspiring for the other...That is oral tradition is not inspired but written is.. The Bible was at one point oral tradition and then it became written. The dichotomy between the two is kind of illogical to meThis is why I said (as it appears to me anyway) is hypocritical.
If we apply these standards to any faith it will be shown as illogical.
Not to be taken as name calling, but these are honestly atheist points (or at least agnostic).
FWIW, I think that Open Door has a valid question here. If we claim what we claim, then we should be able to back it up against questions pertaining to logical inconsistencies. I look forward to his thread and I will contribute to the best of my abilities. Questions of this type can often be the most difficult and most revealing.
In the meantime, we can continue to point out the logical inconsistencies in the Sola Scriptura approach in this thread...
I think this is were the SS and the EO have been talking past each other. The bible is not just oral tradition written down.The Bible was at one point oral tradition and then it became written. The dichotomy between the two is kind of illogical to me
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