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Montalban said:The explanation is important. It's why they had an Ecumenical Council to affirm the teaching as the church always taught.
No dobut the Anglican church accepts both this explanation and the council that gave it.
I think you need to read a commentary to understand what I am saying. They do not give out new revelation.Not quite. They may give a totally new reading of an existing text - which is a 'new' revelation.
I'm not even going to ask how that's circular reasoning but a different interpretation of the Scripture is not a new revelation. The revelation might be "new" to the person learning it, but it's always been there, if indeed the interpretation is accurate and doesn't contradict Scripture.That's back to circular reasoning because your reading is - as you think - what scripture REALLY says, as opposed to an interpretation of it
Saying "The Trinity is in the Bible" is meaningless
That's nonsense. The Nicene Council decided on the Trinity and against the Arians ON THE BASIS OF SCRIPTURE.it gives credence to different notions of the Trinity such as the Arian notion, etc.
I'll leave you to wrestle with that one, since she is the Queen of YOUR country but not mine.The teaching "Your church must be headed by the Queen of England" is absent from the bible
That's not so. 'Prosperity gospel' for example is a new revelation of how to read the bible.I think you need to read a commentary to understand what I am saying. They do not give out new revelation.
It's 'cause you've assumed your reading of it is how it's writen and not an interpretation of what's writtenI'm not even going to ask how that's circular reasoning
That's not so.but a different interpretation of the Scripture is not a new revelation.
I'm pretty sure the verses in the Scripture is the "very important" part to assist the church in understanding the dogma to prevent heresies.Agreed, the explanation we have of the dogma of the Trinity by the Ecumenical Councils is very important to assist our correct understanding and to prevent heresies.
Prosperity gospel is not a "new revelation" it is a false teaching and they do that by twisting Scriptures.That's not so. 'Prosperity gospel' for example is a new revelation of how to read the bible.
I don't follow.It's 'cause you've assumed your reading of it is how it's writen and not an interpretation of what's written
The new revelation would be something completely different that no one have yet to know about. You might have come to an understanding that everyone else had understood but because you now go into the meat of the gospel because you no longer need milk only meant that you're maturing in Christ.That's not so.
If I read scripture and come to a new understanding and claim to understand truths long hidden - that's a new revelation
It is a new revelation, and a false teaching.Prosperity gospel is not a "new revelation" it is a false teaching and they do that by twisting Scriptures.
Every time you read something you interpret it. You can get to a different conclusion that I.I don't follow.
That's what prosperity gospel is!The new revelation would be something completely different that no one have yet to know about.
It is a new revelation, and a false teaching.
Every time you read something you interpret it. You can get to a different conclusion that I.
That's what prosperity gospel is!
It is both.Prosperity gospel is not a "new revelation" it's a false teaching.
It was a new revelation - what they understood from the OT wasn't what they understood from the NT - else we'd all be JewsThat's like Paul telling the Galatians that the different gospel being preached is a new revelation, it's not and that's not what he said. He flat out said that it's wrong and that those who preach "let them be accursed".
It is both.
It was a new revelation - what they understood from the OT wasn't what they understood from the NT - else we'd all be Jews
One can have a false teaching that is old.
One can have a false teaching that is new.
CaliforniaJosiah said:Protestants agree. Which is why there is an embrace of accountability. But THAT is the point where the RCC so passionately objects to Sola Scriptura. Accountability. It is passionately insistent upon it in EVERY OTHER case, with EVERY OTHER teacher/denomination/organization) but it itself makes one (just one) remarkable, complete, total, whole, absolute exception: itself. It itself insists that it itself alone can't be wrong and ergo is exempt from accountability and ergo from ANY rule/canon/norma normans (thus it's rejection of Scripture as such - The Rule of Scripture, aka Sola Scriptura).
Yes, it has a norma normans for EVERY OTHER teacher: itself. If others are in full, complete agreement with itself - they are determined to be correct, otherwise they are wrong. But it has no norma normans for itself since it itself insists that it itself can't be wrong (at least in its dogmas), all are to docilicly submit to it itself alone, insists it itself alone, not hold it accountable (to anything); the issue is submission not accountability.
But I AGREE WITH YOU: teachers can be wrong. Even if a teacher insists on making one exception to such a possibility: self.
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Tradition, .
HisKid1973 said:What Tradition apart from from the sacred scriptures do I need to know to find Christ and mature in the faith? It was a few verses in a chick track that the Holy Spirit used for me to become born anew that hot august night in 73.
If you feel completely fulfilled with the understanding that you now have, then you can do no more than follow the truth as you understand it. BTW, I received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit in a Pentecostal church around the same time period. After the service, the minister handed me a track and said, "This will explain what happened to you."
HisKid1973 said:I feel absolutely fulfilled,over 40 years now. Some incredible answers to prayer/miraculous events that God has done/accomplished in my life. I didn't get any booklets, but I got a fire inside..Personally I think Rome went wrong and you see the results today. Even the OC adds to what you have to do to be a member of the church..You just can't walk in and share how you become born anew and be part of their church..
I feel absolutely fulfilled,over 40 years now. Some incredible answers to prayer/miraculous events that God has done/accomplished in my life. I didn't get any booklets, but I got a fire inside..Personally I think Rome went wrong and you see the results today. Even the OC adds to what you have to do to be a member of the church..You just can't walk in and share how you become born anew and be part of their church..
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