• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Sola Scriptura - who has the correct interpretation of the WORD?

Status
Not open for further replies.

PassthePeace1

CARO CARDO SALUTIS
Jun 6, 2005
13,265
700
✟39,260.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married

While not attempting to speak for all Catholics, I don't think it's that we view SS as the root of all the problems that the Reformation has produced....but rather a by-product of the core problem. Which is when a group of people, think that they can usurp the authority that God gave to the bishops and start their own churches based own their own self appointed authority. I think in the end, Luther got this when he saw the divisions that were occuring within the Reformation.

Peace be with you...Pam
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,550
28,531
74
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,300.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
Originally Posted by JacktheCatholic

Intelligble???

Isn't that a term used with living beings?
No, that would be "intelligent."
Perhaps there is a difference betwee Spiritual "intelligence" and Earthly "intelligence"?
Though that would appear to be "gnostic" thinking but hey, there is a lot of Spirituality symbolism in the Bible it seems.

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Exodus 12:23 And YHWH passes to strike the Egyptians and He sees the blood on the lintel and on two of the jambs and YHWH passes over the portal and not He shall allow the ruiner/07843 shachath to come to houses of you to strike.

Reve 9:11 and they are having on them a king, the messenger of the abyss, name to him to-Hebrew, Abaddon/abaddwn <3>, and in the greecian name he is having Destroyer/Ruiner/apo-lluwn <623>.
 
Upvote 0

PassthePeace1

CARO CARDO SALUTIS
Jun 6, 2005
13,265
700
✟39,260.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
I never heard that term Solo Scriptura before and so I do not know what to think of it.

The way I see the difference, is those that hold to Sola place themselves under a central authority of sorts, and do hold to some traditions, that they feel hold up to the scrutiny of referances in the bible. Verses, those that hold to Solo, that rely on self that they believe is guided by the Holy Spirit to establish a rule of faith.

Peace be with you...Pam
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,550
28,531
74
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,300.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
Everyone here on this board is guided by the Holy Spirit from what I see. What is exactly your point?
 
Upvote 0

JacktheCatholic

Praise be to Jesus Christ. Now and forever.
Mar 9, 2007
24,545
2,797
57
Michigan, USA
Visit site
✟51,888.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Perhaps there is a difference betwee Spiritual "intelligence" and Earthly "intelligence"?
Though that would appear to be "gnostic" thinking but hey, there is a lot of Spirituality symbolism in the Bible it seems.


Does this weigh in to Sola Scriptura?
 
Upvote 0

PassthePeace1

CARO CARDO SALUTIS
Jun 6, 2005
13,265
700
✟39,260.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Everyone here on this board is guided by the Holy Spirit from what I see. What is exactly your point?


Yes, everyone is guided by the Holy Spirit, but not everyone has been giving the authority to interpret scripture to define doctrines and dogmas. We can see this is a problem even in the NT. Many of Paul's epistles are dealing and correcting errors that arose amoung the people that step outside of the authority of the apostles, and practiced something other than Apostolic Teachings.

Peace be with you...Pam
 
Reactions: CathNancy
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,550
28,531
74
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,300.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
Oh yeah... it is in the original post.

Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by scripture alone")
There is also the greek "only/alone" I think.

John 1:14 And the Word flesh became/egeneto <1096> (5633), and booths in us, and we gaze at the glory of Him, glory as only-generated/mono-genouV <3439> beside Father, full of grace and truth.
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,550
28,531
74
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,300.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
Upvote 0

sunlover1

Beloved, Let us love one another
Nov 10, 2006
26,146
5,348
Under the Shadow of the Almighty
✟102,311.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Because what people say and do are usually not the
same thing are they.

Same with any denominations, again.
We have people right here on CF who
make claims that they dont believe in
birth control or masturbation for
instance, yet... cmon!

LIke Marv said, Just do as the bereans,
study it to see if things line up. Pray to
God for the revelations from His Word,
practice the presence of God, and thus
walk in Christ.
Marvs post was excellent. As you said, some
claim that they dont use any tradition, some
claim that they do, but truth be told, I bet
it's the rare man who doesnt, because we
dont live in a vacuum.

It does get tiring, just like the protestants are rebellious
etc threads. But it was a point of reference.
Personally, I say that I am SS, but there is more
than one definition of that, as we've seen here.

As far as someone's comment about protestants
not submitting to church leadership etc.
I submit to who God puts me under.
So IF I were to have a priest from RC for instance,
I wouldnt practice birth control, or other things
that RC teaches.
But since Im not under a priest, and since my
pastor is silent on that, then I go with my conscience.

No, I havent had any caffiene,
I just missed talking to you is all.
forgive me
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,550
28,531
74
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,300.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
No, I havent had any caffiene,
I just missed talking to you is all.
forgive me
I missed my caffeine yesterday cuz we ran out of coffee and boy, did I suffer for it later in the day!!! Ever go thru caffeine"withdrawal"
 
Reactions: sunlover1
Upvote 0

JacktheCatholic

Praise be to Jesus Christ. Now and forever.
Mar 9, 2007
24,545
2,797
57
Michigan, USA
Visit site
✟51,888.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
We are all united in JESUS.

Baptism has a way of doing that.

But I was thinking more along the lines of John 17 when Jesus said to be united as he and the father are united.
 
Upvote 0

JacktheCatholic

Praise be to Jesus Christ. Now and forever.
Mar 9, 2007
24,545
2,797
57
Michigan, USA
Visit site
✟51,888.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
some
claim that they dont use any tradition, some
claim that they do, but truth be told, I bet
it's the rare man who doesnt, because we
dont live in a vacuum.

I tend to see this too. But if that is true then as someone posted earleir, it would not be Sola Scriptura (technically speaking).
 
Reactions: PassthePeace1
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,550
28,531
74
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,300.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
Baptism has a way of doing that.

But I was thinking more along the lines of John 17 when Jesus said to be united as he and the father are united.
I am united in Them. Put off the Flesh and clothed yourself in Truth and Righteousness

Hebrews 9:1 Had indeed then also former ordinances of divine-service/latreiaV <2999>, the besides holy, worldly/kosmikon <2886>.

Reve 22:3 And every anathema/kat-anaqema <2652> not shall be longer, and the throne of the God, and of the Lambkin in her shall be. And the Bond-servents of Him shall-be-offering-divine-service/latreusousin <3000> (5692) to Him.
 
Upvote 0

thereselittleflower

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2003
34,832
1,526
✟57,855.00
Faith
Catholic
It was a great question.
I answered it on the second page.

Thanks sunlover. It seems that you are asying that no one can know who is right.

Can the question be answered in the opposite - "who has the wrong interpretation of the WORD?"

?
 
Upvote 0

thereselittleflower

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2003
34,832
1,526
✟57,855.00
Faith
Catholic
As TLF writely pointed out before, God allowed even an ass to be guided by the HS.
Why not regenrate CHRISTians in the scripture interpretations?

OK then, it should be relatively easy to answer the question asked by the OP, right?

I am very interested in hearing your answer telling us who has the right interpretation of the word.

Would you let us know?
 
Upvote 0

LittleLambofJesus

Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git!
Site Supporter
May 19, 2015
125,550
28,531
74
GOD's country of Texas
Visit site
✟1,237,300.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
OK then, it should be relatively easy to answer the question asked by the OP, right?

I am very interested in hearing your answer telling us who has the right interpretation of the word.

Would you let us know?
Who are you implying that does not have the right interpretation.

2 Timothy 4:1 Thru-witnessing then I, before the GOD and the Lord Jesus Christ, of the one-being-about/mellontoV <3195> (5723) to be judging/krinein <2919> (5721) living and dead, according as the appearance/manifestation/epifaneian <2015> of Him and the Kingdom of Him
Reve 19:11 And I perceived the heaven having be opened and Lo! A horse, white and the One sitting on it/him being called Faithful and True and in justice He is judging/krinei <2919> (5719) and is battling.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.