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The choice is between your own personal interpretations (relying on your own wisdom and human reasoning) or that of the Church founded by Jesus that has taught the same faith since the first century. Those who are humble and love God choose the Church. Those who are arrogant and swollen with pride choose themselves.
In reality, the highest authority for you is yourself since you just interpret whatever verses you like to say whatever you want to believe. If the Bible was the highest authority, you would submit to the Church that gave us the Bible and has understood it consistently since the first century.
The Bible is the written tradition of the Church. There aren't any church traditions that contradict scripture even though modern erroneous interpretations may not agree with it.
The first Christians had living apostles and around 500 witnesses to the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. So no.... Sola Scriptura is not overrated because all of us later generations have to totally rely on their word. "I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word[in other words, Sola Scriptura]" John 17:20Sola Scriptura is overrated, the first christians didn't need it so neither do we.
I think you're kinda taking liberty that those who are well grounded in scripture all are puffed up with pride. No one can know what"s in another man's head.
I personally experienced 2 huge miricals in my life because I kept my nose in the Word. Without knowing or suspecting anything another person spoke to me about my struggles and God breathed life into their words and I was healed. They were not aware that they were used by God to reach me with the faith to believe what they spoke. But Scripture tells us that faith cometh by hearing and hearing comes from reading the Word. (Paraphrasing)
The able to "hear" from God comes by reading His Word.
He who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
It is my strong personal belief that reading Scripture places us in a position to be given unmeritted faith at the time He choses to speak Truth to us.
That's fine, but we are only fooling ourselves if we claim that something contradicts what Christians have always believed just because this or that denomination tells its members that X is what the church has always believed. The people believe, of course, but much of what passes for being what Christians 'have always believed' is anything but that.There is nothing wrong with reading and studying scripture on your own. The problem is when people interpret scripture in a new way that contradicts what Christians have always believed based on the constant teaching of the church.
It might be a mistake to agree with Zwingli, then. That's all that you've proven with this quotation--if that.Here's an example from Zwingli in the 16th century:
"In this matter of Baptism, all the doctors have been in error from the time of the Apostles... For all the doctors have ascribed to the water a power which it does not have and the holy apostles did not teach... The fathers were in error... because they thought that the water itself effects cleansing and salvation."
I'm not willing to discuss things with anyone who just wants to be judgmental and tell me what I do or don't think and/or believe.
That's fine, but we are only fooling ourselves if we claim that something contradicts what Christians have always believed just because this or that denomination tells its members that X is what the church has always believed. The people believe, of course, but much of what passes for being what Christians 'have always believed' is anything but that.
It might be a mistake to agree with Zwingli, then. That's all that you've proven with this quotation--if that.
If you've forgotten, your role here is to denounce reliance upon Scripture, not to promote it. Now you're telling me that I should pay attention to it. (?)I can't help you if you aren't willing to listen to scripture. That's your mistake, not mine.
So you're again citing Scripture in the effort to prove to me that no one should trust Scripture to determine God's will for us.I don't follow any denominations since 1 Corinthians 1:10-17 is clear that Christians are not to divide themselves into factions.
Yes, we're all Christians, samir. I look forward to the day when the mention of that fact doesn't make you uncomfortable.The truth hurts but I tell you because I'm a Christian.
There's a trend toward many different repeating themes in these parts of late isn't there? I've browsed through the pages and found all manner of threads claiming what is in God's word isn't so.I honestly don't know what's going on with so many anti-Sola Scriptura posts the last couple days.
For me it comes down to what you consider more authoritative, the inspired word of God, or Church traditions and teachings. For me the Bible will always be of higher authority.
Unfortunately there is just too much in church traditions and teachings that contradicts the word of God.
If that was a practice common to members of the church these threads would die for lack of attention don't you think?I reject anything that contradicts scripture.
The early Church didn't abide by Sola Scriptura. Indeed, they likely would've found the entire concept rather absurd.For me it comes down to what you consider more authoritative, the inspired word of God, or Church traditions and teachings. For me the Bible will always be of higher authority.
Acts 15 chronicles the Council of Jerusalem. The council's decision was binding upon the Church then and it remains binding today. Just about everybody agrees on that.Unfortunately there is just too much in church traditions and teachings that contradicts the word of God.
You sound like one who is clueless.Sola Scriptura is overrated, the first christians didn't need it so neither do we.
If you've forgotten, your role here is to denounce reliance upon Scripture, not to promote it.
Now you're telling me that I should pay attention to it. (?)
Seems like you should be telling me to "listen to legend and myth" if you're hoping to be consistent.
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