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I must have missed the part in Genesis where the angels actually got raped. Could you please post the exact verse for me?You don't know your Bible well, do you?
Read Genesis 19 and Judges 19
Nice, good old fashion cursing will get it down.Babble Boy has confused me again! ROFLMAO!
Okay. Do you think Jude was talking only about Sodom and Gammorah? If so, you're mistaken. Sodom and Gammorah were an example in Jude to point to the lusting and the fornication that was happening with a certain apostatic group within the Church body. It was not talking about angels. At all. It used angels as an example because they took the form of men.Babble Boy has confused me again! ROFLMAO!
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis%2019;&version=31;I must have missed the part in Genesis where the angels actually got raped. Could you please post the exact verse for me?
It's a direct parable Genesis --> Jude 1 (it says "like Sodom and Gomorrah")Okay. Do you think Jude was talking only about Sodom and Gammorah? If so, you're mistaken. Sodom and Gammorah were an example in Jude to point to the lusting and the fornication that was happening with a certain apostatic group within the Church body. It was not talking about angels. At all. It used angels as an example because they took the form of men.
That is the whole chapter. I wanted an exact verse where they get raped. I would love to know this, because I always wondered if Angels had butts. How exactly did they get rapped? Did they get butt rapped? What do they need those butts for anyway? This discussion has gone to new levels now, lol.
It's a direct parable Genesis --> Jude 1 (it says "like Sodom and Gomorrah")
This is not talking about the Apostate group directly, it's using it as a metaphor to encourage the Church to rebuke the apostates. The Apostates were not lusting after Michael.8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”
(Jude 7)
Read Genesis 19, but it is definitely a direct comparison of the two
Who were the apostates in the Church body that Jude was referring to lusting after? Not Michael - that was a different matter.
This is not talking about the Apostate group directly, it's using it as a metaphor to encourage the Church to rebuke the apostates. The Apostates were not lusting after Michael.
LOL!!!! they were in human form, you didn't get that?That is the whole chapter. I wanted an exact verse where they get raped. I would love to know this, because I always wondered if Angels had butts. How exactly did they get rapped? Did they get butt rapped? What do they need those butts for anyway? This discussion has gone to new levels now, lol.
HiRead Genesis 19, but it is definitely a direct comparison of the two
The angelic hosts were raped, do a Google search, and you will find it is true. is your Google broken?I guess the verse where the Angels are butt raped doesn't really exist. I didn't think it did. Isn't it a same that so much time was given to such a thing. Not to mention that it will probably continue until we have all lost our minds, lol.
Okay, let me start again.The angelic hosts were raped, do a Google search, and you will find it is true. is your Google broken?
The structure and points which are raised in both of these chapters are very similar, and it's often pointed out that the two are closely related in meaning.12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.
(2 Peter 2)
Where is that a parable of Peter? I don't see that at all, it's a parable of Sodom and Gomorrah and the angelic visitors from that. My only point is the "strange flesh" is from angels, not from actual humans.Okay, let me start again.
In the book of Jude, the main point that Jude had in writing this letter was that there was an apostate group infiltrating the Church, in reflection of 2 Peter 2;
The structure and points which are raised in both of these chapters are very similar, and it's often pointed out that the two are closely related in meaning.
When Jude mentions Sodom and Gomorrah, what point do you think he's trying to make about this situation unfolding in the Church? That the apostates are lusting after and fornicating with angels? Where's the evidence of this in the text?
How. Does. That. Apply. To. The. Context. Of. Jude?Where is that a parable of Peter? I don't see that at all, it's a parable of Sodom and Gomorrah and the angelic visitors from that. My only point is the "strange flesh" is from angels, not from actual humans.
read Jude 1. it. says.like.sodom.and.gomorrah.going.after.strange.flesh.How. Does. That. Apply. To. The. Context. Of. Jude?
It has absolutely nothing to do with the context of Jude. Jude was talking about apostates who were lusting after one another and spreading false doctrines from within the Church.
No, you read it. I already did. How does that apply to the apostates being discussed in the overall context? That they were lusting after angels?read Jude 1. it. says.like.sodom.and.gomorrah.going.after.strange.flesh.
12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children.
(2 Peter 2)
10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.
(Jude 1)
16 These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage. 17 But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: 18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
(Jude 1)
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