socially acceptable homicide

[stone]

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Former NFL player Jack Brewer reacts to Vice President Kamala Harris putting focus on abortion rights ahead of the 2024 election on 'The Story.'

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Christians that vote democrat are choosing to end life. Most democrats are not christians and choose abortion because they don't believe that there is a God. They would probably say its for the womens own good to end a life. They think this way because they don't know the truth or refuse it. Are the christians that choose to end life ignorant of God?

 

[All Becomes New]

This is a very complicated issue to the question, "Can you be a Christian and vote Democrat (or Pro-Choice)?"

What makes this so complicated? I think a LOT of Christians are ignorant themselves of how ignorant some people are on Pro-Life/Pro-Choice debates.

Example: I run a Bible study here at my apartment complex. It is subsidized housing, which means you get people who live here who are on Social Security and Welfare. I also live in a VERY Pro-Choice state (MN, where Tim Walz is from). I myself am unapologetically Pro-Life. I make no apologies about that. But it is hard to nurture people about this topic when the debate can be so heated and there is much misinformation about the topic here since people here are told all their lives that it is about a woman's choice of what to do with her own body. They don't see it as a living child inside them because they have been brainwashed. I have grace for people here. I realize that some of them have had an abortion themselves so it is an extremely sensitive topic. I have tried to tell them the facts, but they still think that the woman should have the choice. In that sense, it is like I am talking to a brick wall... a brick wall about to fall on me. I have very few doubts this person is a Christian. I have seen tremendous growth in their life and they are bearing with the Fruit of the Spirit. I say this as someone who believes abortion is the most important issue on the ballot. It is really difficult to talk about this with people here. So even though I have such strong convictions about this issue, I am not willing to say that if you vote for a Pro-Choice candidate you are not or can't be a Christian.

If anyone wants to know more of my view on this, I wrote this article on July 4, 2022.

Abortion: What Should We Do?

Now that Roe has been overturned in favor of Dobbs, people are coming out of the woodwork to voice their opinions on abortion. One of my concerns as someone who is unapologetically Pro-Life is that many people who only took a passing interest in the Pro-Life movement - if that - are now acting...

www.oldthingspassawayallbecomesnew.net

 

[rambot]

Jack Brewer: All Kamala Harris talks about is death | Fox News Video

Former NFL player Jack Brewer reacts to Vice President Kamala Harris putting focus on abortion rights ahead of the 2024 election on 'The Story.'

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Christians that vote democrat are choosing to end life. Most democrats are not christians and choose abortion because they don't believe that there is a God. They would probably say its for the womens own good to end a life. They think this way because they don't know the truth or refuse it. Are the christians that choose to end life ignorant of God?

I have NO idea how this got past the mods as I'm not sure that posters are permitted to make pronouncements about who is and who is not a christians on CF.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Christians that vote democrat are choosing to end life.

That's kind of like saying Christians who vote republican are choosing to start wars.

Generalizations seem to lack an element of truth to them don't they?

 

[Arcangl86]

Jack Brewer: All Kamala Harris talks about is death | Fox News Video

Former NFL player Jack Brewer reacts to Vice President Kamala Harris putting focus on abortion rights ahead of the 2024 election on 'The Story.'

www.foxnews.com

Christians that vote democrat are choosing to end life.

Not all Christians believe that abortion is ending a life. You can also easily say that voting for the Republicans, the party that historically supports the death penalty and military adventurism is choosing to end life. But the reality is that it is more complicated than that and people can support part of a platform and not others.

Most democrats are not christians and choose abortion because they don't believe that there is a God.

Where are you getting that from? According to Pew, 75% of Democratic and lean Democratic voters are Christian.

They would probably say its for the womens own good to end a life.

I think you are right that they will say that the woman's rights take priority, but I doubt they will consider it taking a life.

They think this way because they don't know the truth or refuse it. Are the christians that choose to end life ignorant of God?

Voting a particular way, or even thinking that abortion should be legal is not "choosing to end life." And even if you limit it to only people who actually procure or provide abortions, you are still assuming that they see it as taking a life, which is not universal or clearly defined in the bible.

 

[All Becomes New]

According to Pew, 75% of Democratic and lean Democratic voters are Christian.

I am going to need you to cite the study here.

 

[Arcangl86]

I am going to need you to cite the study here.

8. The changing demographic composition of voters and party coalitions Here you go.

 

[All Becomes New]

8. The changing demographic composition of voters and party coalitions Here you go.

That was really dishonest of you.

Currently, only 54% of Democrats are Christians compared to 81% of Republicans.

I am tempted to say you told a bald-faced lie.

 

[bèlla]

That's kind of like saying Christians who vote republican are choosing to start wars.

Generalizations seem to lack an element of truth to them don't they?

Middle ground no longer exists. It's either or continually.

~bella

 

[Arcangl86]

That was really dishonest of you.

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Currently, only 54% of Democrats are Christians compared to 81% of Republicans.

I am tempted to say you told a bald-faced lie.

Actually I misread it, but sure, assume the worst of me first.

 

[iarwain]

Not all Christians believe that abortion is ending a life.

It is most certainly ending a life. Pro-Choicers don't consider a fetus a human life at that point of development. I disagree with that, of course.
From a Christian standpoint, I cannot for a moment believe that the God of the Bible would approve of abortion, considering that God sets a perfect standard of morality (including sexual morality) and respect for life. I just don't see how casually accepting abortion is at all consistent with the ideal standard of behavior and cleanliness set forth in scripture.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Jack Brewer: All Kamala Harris talks about is death | Fox News Video

Former NFL player Jack Brewer reacts to Vice President Kamala Harris putting focus on abortion rights ahead of the 2024 election on 'The Story.'

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Christians that vote democrat are choosing to end life. Most democrats are not christians and choose abortion because they don't believe that there is a God. They would probably say its for the womens own good to end a life. They think this way because they don't know the truth or refuse it. Are the christians that choose to end life ignorant of God?

Then abortion should be deemed murder but no one is willing to do that. Why? Hypocrisy. Abortion is now only used for political gain. Just as in this post.
Be blessed.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

That's kind of like saying Christians who vote republican are choosing to start wars.

Generalizations seem to lack an element of truth to them don't they?

I mean if you're voting eagerly for Neocons like George Bush, Mitt Romney or McCain you kind of are voting for the party of war, expansion of the Empire and etc. Mind you all the Neocons currently support Harris.

 

[public hermit]

That was really dishonest of you.

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Currently, only 54% of Democrats are Christians compared to 81% of Republicans.

I am tempted to say you told a bald-faced lie.

Still, it's 54%. That's a significant number.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Middle ground no longer exists. It's either or continually.

~bella

Yes, make a decision based on a pre-determined list, or just go to sleep.

 

[All Becomes New]

Actually I misread it, but sure, assume the worst of me first.

I would not have thought you were lying if you shared your source right away. Instead, you gave a reference with no source which I knew to be false on the face of it. That is why I asked you for your source. Read it again, I have no idea how you got from that that 75% of Dems are Christians. The only thing that is even comparable is that in 2012 75% of all voters were Christians. In short, I don't believe you could read the graph that badly.

 

[All Becomes New]

Still, it's 54%. That's a significant number.

Not all of those are true Christians (either for the Dems or the Rep). Those are just people who identify as Christians.

 

[dzheremi]

I have NO idea how this got past the mods as I'm not sure that posters are permitted to make pronouncements about who is and who is not a christians on CF.

All's fair in politics, a.k.a. making it abundantly clear that everyone to the left of _______ really wants to kill babies, regardless of their stated religious affiliation. Hence, if you vote ______, you're not a real Y.

(Query why anyone should care that a random person on the internet has pronounced them a false Y, but that's a level of discussion we very rarely get to, because it's not easily reduceable according to American partisan politics, and will probably actually involve some theology, and the only thing CF hates more than ______ is serious theological discussion.)

 

[public hermit]

Not all of those are true Christians (either for the Dems or the Rep). Those are just people who identify as Christians.

That means nothing. It's a truism that all confessing Christians are not actual followers of Christ. But once you start delineating those who are in and those who are out, especially after being shown someone is in whom you thought was out, it just becomes a *no true Scotsman * claim.

 

[All Becomes New]

That means nothing. It's a truism that all confessing Christians are not actual followers of Christ. But once you start delineating those who are in and those who are out, especially after being shown someone is in whom you thought was out, it just becomes a *no true Scotsman * claim.

That is so false. We can know who at least has a Biblical worldview because there have been studies on this. Those studies show that by and large most people who claim to be Christians don't know the first thing about correct theology (such as that Jesus was God and not a created being). It is not "no true Scotsman" to say that there is a certain degree of orthodoxy that one must hold in order to be a Christian.

Also, given how theologically liberal you are, it does not surprise me in the least that you appeal to "no true Scotsman" to determine who is a Christian because your own theology is not orthodox.