So, Who In The World Are The Edomites?

[canukian]

Well, who are they today, and how did they get there?

 

[revanneosl]

Edom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Truthseeker313]

If you look up Edom on Wikipedia, they are an anciently Nomadic people descended from Esau, Jacob's twin brother.

Gen 25:25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

Esau was the only person who's birth color was described in the bible. Hes the progenitor of the modern day, so-called "white people". This is where the southern and sometimes racists term "red-neck" derives from. This race of people doesn't get darker in the sun, and because of a shortage of melanin they get "sun burned" and turned red.

Gen 25:26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

Esau and his descendants were used to fulfill the prophecy of who shall be ruling the world at the return of Christ. This information was revealed to Esdras when he asked the most High "What Shall Be the parting Asunder of times"; if you read in the 1611 King James Version Apocrypha ,book of 2Esdras :
2Es 6:7 Then answered I and said, What shall be the parting asunder of the times? or when shall be the end of the first, and the beginning of it that followeth?
2Es 6:8 And he said unto me, From Abraham unto Isaac, when Jacob and Esau were born of him, Jacob's hand held first the heel of Esau.
2Es 6:9 For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.

He made it clear that Esau would be ruling at the end of the world. This is also backed up by the blessing given to Esau by Issac:

Gen 27:40 And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.

Esau served his brother when they were under the rule of the Kingdom of Judah. And they revolted and made their own king.
And in 70AD, the descendants of Esau or better known as the 'Romans', conquered Jerusalem; this was the Dominion that Issac was speaking of. Also of the fact that Israelites were slaves under the rulers of Esau in America Due to a prophecy in Duet 28:68

The Most High used Esau to oppress his people with violence and with slavery throughout history. Therefore you see scriptures like this:

Mal 1:2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Rom 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

But its not because of what they have done to the children of Jacob, but rahter this scripture explains why Esau is hated:

Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

So does that mean White people cant make it in the kingdom?
Of course not!!!

Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God

Therefore, whether you are decended of Jacob (being an Israelite/ Judean in the flesh), or whether you are white, of Hametic, Japhetic or Ishmaelite origin (Gentile in the flesh), you can still make it in the kingdom. For the Most High does not discriminate.

To summarize, Esau is your modern day white people who are ruling the world and Jacob's decendants (12,000 of each tribe = 144,000) will be set back up to rule again according to Issac's Blessing and all other prophecy after Christ's return.

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

All people can make it in the kingdom, but Israelites will govern the kingdom again. For more info, on yahoo, google or youtube, look up truthseekers313.

 

[canukian]

REVELATIONS 3:9

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Who is Jahshewah talking about here?

 

[Truthseeker313]

REVELATIONS 3:9

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Who is Jahshewah talking about here?

Here is Who Yashayah Christ talking about and why:

1. In order to be a "Jew" You have to be descendant from Jacob's son JUDAH, period.
Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Even Israelites who are descendant from Levi arent Jews, because they are Levites.

2. The REAL "Jews" and the rest of the Israelites have been scattered Across the earth because of sin.
Deu 4:27 And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.
Deu 28:64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
Eze 36:19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.


3. Israelites are not forsaken or forgotten, they are just lost.
Jer 51:5 For Israel hath not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

4. The tribe of Judah will be the first tribe to wake up, and the rest of the tribes will gather to them.
Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Eze 28:25 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that I have given to my servant Jacob.

5. The Israelites will be given the land of Israel at a later time after being gathered, starting with the tribe of judah.
Eze 11:17 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.
Isa 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Please read my previous post on this thread. Esau is linked with the Modern day jewish People.
This post is just to distinguish the different between Ashkanazi Jewish people and the real Jews aka Judeans who were brought to America on slave ships to America and the rest of the earth. For more info look up truthseekers313.

 

[canukian]

Esau was the only person who's birth color was described in the bible. Hes the progenitor of the modern day, so-called "white people". This is where the southern and sometimes racists term "red-neck" derives from. This race of people doesn't get darker in the sun, and because of a shortage of melanin they get "sun burned" and turned red.

adam means red cheaked, and david is called rudy faced.

 

[canukian]

He made it clear that Esau would be ruling at the end of the world. This is also backed up by the blessing given to Esau by Issac:

how is when rome ruled the world the end of the world?

 

[canukian]

Revelation 2:9

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Do these edomite jews (not real jews) own the federal reserve today?

 

[revanneosl]

Please try to remember that this is the History section. Not the Eschatology section nor the whackadoo conspiracy section.

 

[canukian]

Please try to remember that this is the History section. Not the Eschatology section nor the whackadoo conspiracy section.

is that your final answer?

 

[canukian]

Please try to remember that this is the History section. Not the Eschatology section nor the whackadoo conspiracy section.

btw i like your signiture wich reminds us that the darkness cannot subfuse the light, that the truth is eternal and indestructable.

 

[Epiphoskei]

Revelation 2:9

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Do these edomite jews (not real jews) own the federal reserve today?

Revelation 2:9 certainly is spiritual, not ethnic in nature, i.e., Ethnic Jews are not the Israel of God.

And no, no one owns the federal reserve. I thought we left that Jewish Banker Conspiracy thing back in the dustheap of 1945.

 

[canukian]

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[SIZE=+1]ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8 OF THE CONSTITUTION STATES THAT CONGRESS SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO COIN (CREATE) MONEY AND REGULATE THE VALUE THEREOF.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]IN 1935 THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT CONGRESS CANNOT CONSTITUTIONALLY DELEGATE ITS POWER TO ANOTHER GROUP. (Reference 22, P. 168)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Rothschild, a London Banker, wrote a letter saying "It (Central Bank ) gives the National Bank almost complete control of national finance. The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class... The great body of the people, mentally incapable of comprehending, will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical (contrary) to their interests." [The bankers created the legislation for the FED][/SIZE]

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for those with ears.

The Federal Reserve Is A privately Owned Corporation

 

[canukian]

Revelation 2:9 certainly is spiritual, not ethnic in nature, i.e., Ethnic Jews are not the Israel of God.

And no, no one owns the federal reserve. I thought we left that Jewish Banker Conspiracy thing back in the dustheap of 1945.

Idumea or Edom in Hebrew was the region south of Judea originally inhabited by the reputed descendents of Jacob's brother Esau. Edom was periodically subjected to Judea (under David & Solomon [10th c. BCE] & the Maccabees [2nd c. BCE]). Homeland of the house of Herod. There were no natural boundaries between Idumea & Judea, so the borders were always in flux. The distinction between Edomites & Jews was blurred by Johanan Hyrcanus' forced conversion of Idumea to Judaism [ca. 130 BCE]. During the 1st c. CE pressure by the Arab Nabateans pushed the territory of the Edomites to within 15 miles of Jerusalem. The region was bounded by the city state of Gaza on the west and the Dead Sea on the east. Herod's wilderness fortress of Masada that served as the final base of Jewish resistance to Roman rule lay within its borders. After 70 CE Idumea was detached from Judea until it was captured by modern Israel in the Six-Day War [1967].

Idumea/Edom

so the edomites became jews? no, they cannot be decended from judah. threfor when you call them jews, it is a lie. this is what jahshewah was talking about. jahshewah hated the edomites just as his father did:

Malachi 1

3And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.

for ever !!

 

[Epiphoskei]

I have no idea what you're talking about. The Edomites don't feature in Revelation 2.

 

[canukian]

I have no idea what you're talking about. The Edomites don't feature in Revelation 2.

the edomites were forced to convert to juidaism, so then were called jews. jews are decendent from judah, so how can those who are decenants of esau, the edomites, be jews? king herod was an edomite. this makes it obvious that jahshewah was talking about the edomites here:

Revelation 2:9

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

and the edomotes who occupy israel today are not jews, but are these people:

Malachi 1

3And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.

do you understand now?

 

[Epiphoskei]

I'm not sure what standard of evidence you're using which makes anything "obvious," but Revelation is talking about people who claim to be Jews by birth but are not part of the spiritual Israel of God.

 

[Cassiterides]

If you look up Edom on Wikipedia, they are an anciently Nomadic people descended from Esau, Jacob's twin brother.

Gen 25:25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

Esau was the only person who's birth color was described in the bible. Hes the progenitor of the modern day, so-called "white people". This is where the southern and sometimes racists term "red-neck" derives from. This race of people doesn't get darker in the sun, and because of a shortage of melanin they get "sun burned" and turned red.

Sorry but this is false, for example Laban Jacob's father in law was already 'white'. Esau was not the progenitor of 'white people'.

Laban translates literally as ''white'' (Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, #3835). His name was derived from the fact he was a ''white Syrian'', a name which appears in numerous ancient writings. The white Syrians (Greek: Leuco-Syrians) according to ancient geographer Strabo (Geographica, XII. 3. 9) derived their name from the fact they kept their skin pale white and not ''burnt'' (sunburnt/tanned):

''The boundary of the Paphlagonians to the east is the river Halys, which flows from the south between the Syrians and the Paphlagonians; and according to Herodotus, (who means Cappadocians, when he is speaking of Syrians,) discharges itself into the Euxine Sea. Even at present they are called Leuco-Syrians, (or White Syrians,) while those without the Taurus are called Syrians. In comparison with the people within the Taurus, the latter have a burnt complexion; but the former, not having it, received the appellation of Leuco- Syrians (or White Syrians).''

 

[Cassiterides]

Just to inform readers, the author of this thread is a yet another racist afrocentric who believes Jesus, the Israelites, Jews etc were all black african, while white people are either 'albinos' or cursed edomites.

 

[canukian]

Just to inform readers, the author of this thread is a yet another racist afrocentric who believes Jesus, the Israelites, Jews etc were all black african, while white people are either 'albinos' or cursed edomites.

are you saying that is what i believe?