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Maybe the pictures of the be-speedo'ed David Hasselhoff had something to do with it?
That your way of asking for more?Maybe the pictures of the be-speedo'ed David Hasselhoff had something to do with it?
kDepends on if those conservatives are truly conservative. But that's an argument for another thread.
Yah, Criada and I have discussed that a little. I guess it's all so fluid, it's possibly hard to self-label, and even harder to label others. And yet...What I suspect might be the problem could merely be the differences between UK conservatism and US conservatism, I hope I can say this without getting beaten up but from my outsiders point of view conservatism in the US goes to extremes which are unheard of in the UK or most places for that matter, our friends over the pond don't do things by halves. In UK standards from what I know of your theology you are very much a conservative.
Heh, you want it, too?that's just wrong dude, my eyes are watering from the burning sensation created by your verbal photograph
As do I...More hmm. I unequivocally affirm the CC SoF... what I disagree with is the new approach of a few and the change in CC's direction in terms of approach.
Good point...For me (and I've had multiple theologically conservative pastors agree with me) while I consider my self conservative theologically, I often find that some "conservatives" get too hung up on certain issues that don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Based on that I feel that I have what many may consider "moderate" views.
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Yeah, this is basically a forum of self-identification. Eventually we'll have a survey and a breakdown of what various members think, doctrinally, and in practice. But even then the results won't be a basis for membership.
In practice, most people are pretty conservative, theologically (as far as I can tell). There are a few self-professed liberals. And at least one person for whom I have absolutely no idea. But regardless of any of that, whatever you may think, if you tend to identify yourself as a moderate, you are welcome to call youself a moderate here.
Showing how subjective a moderate is being defined here.How is this helping?
Uh huh. I'm an American, but you could say I'm a UK conservative because I'm conservative like C.S. Lewis, not like Jerry Falwell.What I suspect might be the problem could merely be the differences between UK conservatism and US conservatism, I hope I can say this without getting beaten up but from my outsiders point of view conservatism in the US goes to extremes which are unheard of in the UK or most places for that matter, our friends over the pond don't do things by halves. In UK standards from what I know of your theology you are very much a conservative.
That describes me too.For me (and I've had multiple theologically conservative pastors agree with me) while I consider my self conservative theologically, I often find that some "conservatives" get too hung up on certain issues that don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Based on that I feel that I have what many may consider "moderate" views.
Showing how subjective a moderate is being defined here.
For myself, I don't like the thought of being between the Liberals and the Conservatives. I don't think it adequately describes my view or distinguishes them from other people who don't fit into those categories. The first thing I would argue is in not describing Christianity in terms of these two camps - Liberal and Conservative - and then identifying oneself with respect to them.
I don't want to be too pejorative towards my more Liberal and Conservative brethren, so as an analogy that works on one level (and one level only) saying that a Moderate is between Liberalism and Conservatism seems to me quite like saying that Trinitarianism is between Sabellianism and Arianism. Again, not that Liberals and Conservatives are basically Sabellians and Arians but you get the idea: I wouldn't define my positions in terms of what someone else thinks.
A moderate is someone who reads the scripts of the liberal and the conservative and whips out the red pen.
I am confused.
We have:
Extreme Liberalism
Liberalism
Moderate
Conservative
Legalism
Extreme Legalism
How many levels do we have?
I am taking a breather from Foru.ms.
Bye Bye
great response~everyone is someone else's liberal & someone else's conservative.
By even being on the internet the absolute most conservative member here at 4U is considered liberal by my plain mennonite friends
Well, I think that depends upon the person. Everyone has a point of reference. I consider myself moderate in my views because I believe it is wrong to impose my views on others. Many conservatives believe it is their duty to do so. However, I'm not a liberal either, because I don't think that everyone should choose a view that is right for them and they'll be just fine.
I see the moderate thing more as an attitude rather than any set beliefs. My beliefs are pretty much conservative - but I don't feel it is right to berate people who disagree. If the basics are there, we can get along - and even, perhaps, discuss our differences without being nasty to one another.
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