• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Jun 16, 2016
8
3
29
Durban
✟22,743.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Hello everyone,
I'm a newbie (still trying to find my way around this site) and was just wondering if anyone could help me out... I've been a 'christian' all my life but only recently i really became very involved and dedicated to the Lord. However i do have many questions i would like answered and it involves various different things along the lines of sex, love and general things about life. I am still a youngster only 20 years of age and i do have a very awesome career ahead of me.
So if anyone is willing to help me out, id really appreciate it.
 

ScottA

Author: Walking Like Einstein
Site Supporter
Feb 24, 2011
4,309
657
✟56,347.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Hello everyone,
I'm a newbie (still trying to find my way around this site) and was just wondering if anyone could help me out... I've been a 'christian' all my life but only recently i really became very involved and dedicated to the Lord. However i do have many questions i would like answered and it involves various different things along the lines of sex, love and general things about life. I am still a youngster only 20 years of age and i do have a very awesome career ahead of me.
So if anyone is willing to help me out, id really appreciate it.
Welcome! A word of caution: You will find all kinds here, some helpful and loving, some roaming about like roaring lions. All the best!
 
Upvote 0

hedrick

Senior Veteran
Site Supporter
Feb 8, 2009
20,479
10,846
New Jersey
✟1,308,778.00
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Single
CF has a varied membership, although it's skewed in the direction of conservative Christians. There are everything from extreme legalists to "free love", though the latter are rare and can't be very open about it.

There are several places you could reasonably post questions. I'd spend a few days looking at how they responded to existing questions, to see which group you would feel most comfortable asking.
  • The official advice place is Christian Advice. You'll also get the most varied responses there.
  • Young Adults, and in particular the Younger Adults subforum is for your age group.
  • Singles and Men's forum are other possibilities.
  • Finally, there are congregational forums for specific church traditions. In principle that will get you people who have the same theological orientation that you do, if you have one.
Be careful how you title your posting. I'm a liberal Christian. People often ask questions in the Liberal forum wanting a responses from people with similar views. But if there are works like gay, homosexual, or other controversial words in the title, people pick the topic up in "New Postings" and respond even though they have no business posting in that forum. I assume experience is similar in other forums.'

From your profile it appears that you're attending an Anglican church. There is a specific forum for that tradition. For more serious theological questions, Tradition Theology, under General Theology, would be appropriate for an Anglican. The information I could get quickly suggests that the Anglican Church of SA is relatively liberal (particularly for Africa), though there is a wide range of beliefs in it. If you are liberal, then the Liberal forum here is also a possibility.
 
Upvote 0

mnorian

Oldbie--Eternal Optimist
In Memory Of
Mar 9, 2013
36,794
10,561
✟987,882.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Hello everyone,
I'm a newbie (still trying to find my way around this site) and was just wondering if anyone could help me out... I've been a 'christian' all my life but only recently i really became very involved and dedicated to the Lord. However i do have many questions i would like answered and it involves various different things along the lines of sex, love and general things about life. I am still a youngster only 20 years of age and i do have a very awesome career ahead of me.
So if anyone is willing to help me out, id really appreciate it.

Welcome to CF Ryan; may the Lord Jesus guide you here and in the world;

upload_2016-6-17_2-54-45.jpeg
 
Upvote 0
Jun 16, 2016
8
3
29
Durban
✟22,743.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
CF has a varied membership, although it's skewed in the direction of conservative Christians. There are everything from extreme legalists to "free love", though the latter are rare and can't be very open about it.

There are several places you could reasonably post questions. I'd spend a few days looking at how they responded to existing questions, to see which group you would feel most comfortable asking.
  • The official advice place is Christian Advice. You'll also get the most varied responses there.
  • Young Adults, and in particular the Younger Adults subforum is for your age group.
  • Singles and Men's forum are other possibilities.
  • Finally, there are congregational forums for specific church traditions. In principle that will get you people who have the same theological orientation that you do, if you have one.
Be careful how you title your posting. I'm a liberal Christian. People often ask questions in the Liberal forum wanting a responses from people with similar views. But if there are works like gay, homosexual, or other controversial words in the title, people pick the topic up in "New Postings" and respond even though they have no business posting in that forum. I assume experience is similar in other forums.'

From your profile it appears that you're attending an Anglican church. There is a specific forum for that tradition. For more serious theological questions, Tradition Theology, under General Theology, would be appropriate for an Anglican. The information I could get quickly suggests that the Anglican Church of SA is relatively liberal (particularly for Africa), though there is a wide range of beliefs in it. If you are liberal, then the Liberal forum here is also a possibility.

Hi there Hendrick.

Yes I do attend a Anglican Church, but I attend it because its the closest church around me... so to say, that I actually don't know the difference between an Anglican Church and other Church's, could you help me out?
 
Upvote 0

hedrick

Senior Veteran
Site Supporter
Feb 8, 2009
20,479
10,846
New Jersey
✟1,308,778.00
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Single
It’s hard to answer this question quickly.

In general the Anglican churches combine Catholic and Reformed piety and theology. There are people who are just about Catholic, but there’s also a strong Reformed wing. It teaches beliefs that have been historically Christian, but holds to core Protestant ideas such as justification by faith.

It tends to have liturgical worship, i.e. fairly formal services.

Most Anglican churches are moderately liberal on social issues. E.g. the South African Anglican church has no prohibition on ordination of gays, although they oppose gay marriage.

The US version, and I suspect the SA version as well, is what I’d call “mainline.” These are the churches most directly going back to the original Reformation (in the case of the Anglicans the Reformation in the UK, which had some differences with the Continental reformation), with traditional worship and piety and relatively sophisticated theology. E.g. they accept evolution and other types of modern science, which many Protestants don’t. They typically don’t consider the Bible inerrant, though some members do. By that I mean that they recognize that the Scriptural authors were inspired, but also had ideas that came from their 1st Cent background, and that they don’t always agree with each other.

The world Anglican communion (as well as the US branch) is currently being torn apart by arguments over homosexuality, though the SA church seems to be broad enough on this topic that you may not see much about it in your church.

More “conservative” Protestant churches tend towards more legalistic ethics, often reject evolution, and hold to Scriptural inerrancy. Their worship is typically more informal.

If you’re happy with the SA Anglican church, I’d stay there. I’m part of a different mainline church (Presbyterian), but I consider the Anglican tradition a good compromise between Catholic and the best of Protestantism. In the US, I'd say there are similarities to other mainline churches such as Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran etc (as long as you're with the mainline versions of these churches and not the more conservative versions). But I don't know anything about the churches in SA. I checked specifically on the Anglican church and your own congregation, but not more widely.

I can tell you that there's a very wide variety of flavors of Christianity. In some cases you won't see much difference if you just go to Church on Sundays, but you will as soon as you get more involved. In other cases you'd see quite an obvious difference, both in the style of the service and what is taught. The difference is large enough that many people in CF would consider me "apostate," i.e. non-Christian. And visa versa, though I'm too polite to say so.

Differences include fundamental questions such as what the Gospel is, and the relationship between Jesus and God, as well as practical questions such as whether Paul's letters should be treated as examples of thinking out questions in a Christian way or whether we are committed to doing things exactly the way he told the churches to which he wrote to do. One of the most visible differences is in how we treat various questions in sexual ethics and the role of women.

Anglicans hold traditional theology, but tend to be more open to new ways of thinking about theology than more conservative Christians. In ethics they tend to be more open to the possibility that some some of Paul’s instructions were specifically for the 1st Cent situation, so they typically accept full participation of women in leadership, and allow a bit more flexibility in sexual ethics that conservative groups. But again, this is an observation on the US branch. I’m not sure exactly about the SA Anglicans. (I note that there is or at least has been a female bishop. Various indications are that it is similar to the US branch, though probably slightly more conservative.)

Anglicans here typically participate in the Traditional Theology forum (under General Theology), the Anglican forum, and for those who are most interested in the liberal end of the tradition, the Liberal forum.

A lot of the discussion on those forums tends to be about theology and worship, more than personal things about your life. Personal questions are certainly appropriate in the Anglican and Liberal forums. I think Traditional Theology as well, though that's more a theology discussion group. However I’d feel safer with the answers you get from Traditional Theology, Anglican and liberal than some of what you’ll see elsewhere here. Take a look at the kinds of questions asked in Christian Advice, and the answers, to see what I mean.

(I should note that I’m an official Ambassador for Traditional Theology, although my theology has some fairly non-traditional features.)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
Jun 16, 2016
8
3
29
Durban
✟22,743.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
It’s hard to answer this question quickly.

In general the Anglican churches combine Catholic and Reformed piety and theology. There are people who are just about Catholic, but there’s also a strong Reformed wing. It teaches beliefs that have been historically Christian, but holds to core Protestant ideas such as justification by faith.

It tends to have liturgical worship, i.e. fairly formal services.

Most Anglican churches are moderately liberal on social issues. E.g. the South African Anglican church has no prohibition on ordination of gays, although they oppose gay marriage.

The US version, and I suspect the SA version as well, is what I’d call “mainline.” These are the churches most directly going back to the original Reformation (in the case of the Anglicans the Reformation in the UK, which had some differences with the Continental reformation), with traditional worship and piety and relatively sophisticated theology. E.g. they accept evolution and other types of modern science, which many Protestants don’t. They typically don’t consider the Bible inerrant, though some members do. By that I mean that they recognize that the Scriptural authors were inspired, but also had ideas that came from their 1st Cent background, and that they don’t always agree with each other.

The world Anglican communion (as well as the US branch) is currently being torn apart by arguments over homosexuality, though the SA church seems to be broad enough on this topic that you may not see much about it in your church.

More “conservative” Protestant churches tend towards more legalistic ethics, often reject evolution, and hold to Scriptural inerrancy. Their worship is typically more informal.

If you’re happy with the SA Anglican church, I’d stay there. I’m part of a different mainline church (Presbyterian), but I consider the Anglican tradition a good compromise between Catholic and the best of Protestantism. In the US, I'd say there are similarities to other mainline churches such as Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran etc (as long as you're with the mainline versions of these churches and not the more conservative versions). But I don't know anything about the churches in SA. I checked specifically on the Anglican church and your own congregation, but not more widely.

I can tell you that there's a very wide variety of flavors of Christianity. In some cases you won't see much difference if you just go to Church on Sundays, but you will as soon as you get more involved. In other cases you'd see quite an obvious difference, both in the style of the service and what is taught. The difference is large enough that many people in CF would consider me "apostate," i.e. non-Christian. And visa versa, though I'm too polite to say so.

Differences include fundamental questions such as what the Gospel is, and the relationship between Jesus and God, as well as practical questions such as whether Paul's letters should be treated as examples of thinking out questions in a Christian way or whether we are committed to doing things exactly the way he told the churches to which he wrote to do. One of the most visible differences is in how we treat various questions in sexual ethics and the role of women.

Anglicans hold traditional theology, but tend to be more open to new ways of thinking about theology than more conservative Christians. In ethics they tend to be more open to the possibility that some some of Paul’s instructions were specifically for the 1st Cent situation, so they typically accept full participation of women in leadership, and allow a bit more flexibility in sexual ethics that conservative groups. But again, this is an observation on the US branch. I’m not sure exactly about the SA Anglicans. (I note that there is or at least has been a female bishop. Various indications are that it is similar to the US branch, though probably slightly more conservative.)

Anglicans here typically participate in the Traditional Theology forum (under General Theology), the Anglican forum, and for those who are most interested in the liberal end of the tradition, the Liberal forum.

A lot of the discussion on those forums tends to be about theology and worship, more than personal things about your life. Personal questions are certainly appropriate in the Anglican and Liberal forums. I think Traditional Theology as well, though that's more a theology discussion group. However I’d feel safer with the answers you get from Traditional Theology, Anglican and liberal than some of what you’ll see elsewhere here. Take a look at the kinds of questions asked in Christian Advice, and the answers, to see what I mean.

(I should note that I’m an official Ambassador for Traditional Theology, although my theology has some fairly non-traditional features.)


Wow thank you very much for your information! I didn't quiet realize the depth of all this. I have always been a strong believer that you should have your own "custom" way of worship but be open minded to other people's ways of worship. Is it wrong that I go to this church if I have my own ways of worship? Should I try and find out which church I should be going to? I use to go to a Presbyterian church growing up so does it make a difference now that I'm going to a Anglican Church?
Sorry for all these questions but it gets quiet confusing when people point out specific ways of praising God because to me I like to do it almost as if I wanted to make it more personal between me and the Lord.
Sorry if that sounded slightly rude, I don't want to sound like I'm against other peoples ways of praising the Lord, it wasn't my intention at all.
 
Upvote 0

hedrick

Senior Veteran
Site Supporter
Feb 8, 2009
20,479
10,846
New Jersey
✟1,308,778.00
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Single
I probably shouldn't speak for the Anglican Church, but as far as I know, they don't expect you to think that their style of worship is the only one. That's really a question for the Angilcan group, but I think as long as you're OK with participating in your Church you're fine.

There's variety even within Anglican practice. Some like a very formal service, pretty much like traditional Catholics. Others are more informal, though still centered on preaching and Communion.
 
Upvote 0
Jun 16, 2016
8
3
29
Durban
✟22,743.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Thank you very much Hendrick! I really do appreciate your help!
Just one more question, do you have to be apart of a group or way of worship? Because by saying I'm Anglican I feel like I'm restricting my connection with the Lord and feel like it's limited to a certain point, if I could I would be all of them at once... Is there a classification for that? To be almost like a 'free Ranger Christian'.
 
Upvote 0

hedrick

Senior Veteran
Site Supporter
Feb 8, 2009
20,479
10,846
New Jersey
✟1,308,778.00
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Single
Ideally a church is sort of like your Christian family. Sometimes people change, or churches change, but generally it's a good idea not to move unless there's a good reason. ( that was still on your previous question. I'll look at the most recent one)
 
Upvote 0
Jun 16, 2016
8
3
29
Durban
✟22,743.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Okay, so for instance, just talking to me now, would you be able to kind of point me to the right direction to which type of church would suit me, the more custom way of praising the Lord? I'd prefer it to be more casual, so in forms of singing, interaction, learning about gods ways and how to become more like him and going out to spread the word of God and heal others with the power of God and to fight against Satan? I wouldn't expect you to be perfect on your decision but I would like to know if there is a specific type of church I should go to in your opinion.
 
Upvote 0

hedrick

Senior Veteran
Site Supporter
Feb 8, 2009
20,479
10,846
New Jersey
✟1,308,778.00
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Single
It’s fine to appreciate many styles of worship. I suspect most of us do. I certainly like different styles.

The problem isn’t that you have to pick a style. It’s that you have to pick a church. As I noted before, a church is kind of like your family. You get to know the people. They’re there to support you if you need help. You learn from sermons and Sunday School. You do service activities with them. If you spend your life browsing among lots of churches, a lot of this doesn’t happen.

There’s nothing wrong with going to other services, or worshipping on your own somehow. But I would encourage you to commit to a congregation. It won’t be perfect. There will likely be some things you’d prefer to be in a different way. But still, you have to have a home base for your Christian life, and for service.

I haven’t done it, but you can probably have some level of activity at more than one church. I’d just encourage you to have a primary church, and go beyond just the main worship service to become involved in at least some service activities and some learning activities.
 
Upvote 0

hedrick

Senior Veteran
Site Supporter
Feb 8, 2009
20,479
10,846
New Jersey
✟1,308,778.00
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Single
Let me try to help. But you’re getting to the limits of my ability, for two reasons. One is that I don’t know the churches in SA. The other is that I’m guessing you’re a conservative Protestant, and I don’t know the conservative churches as well as the mainline and liberal ones.

But let’s check.

* Do you think Genesis (not just creation, but Noah etc) is historically accurate?
* Do you define the Gospel as Jesus dying to save sinners, or as God sending Jesus to bring about the rule (Kingdom) or God in the world, and inviting us to join him?
* Do you take NT statements on the role of women as forbidding ordination of women or use of them as leaders?

Some churches accept a range of answers to these questions, but generally the conservative churches would answer yes, dying to save sinners, and women are not to be church leaders. Mainline churches would answer the opposite.

If, as I suspect, you’re conservative, then there’s a bunch of options. Some of the major ones are:

* conservative versions of the mainline churches, e.g. conservative Presbyterian, Lutheran, etc. These churches typically have moderately formal worship services, and fairly precise doctrinal statements. You strike me as a bit too much of a “free spirit” for these, but maybe I’m wrong.

* Pentecostal churches: they emphasize the role of the Holy Spirit. Typically they expect Christians to speak in tongues. They emphasize gifts such as healing, and spiritual warfare. I haven’t been to their services, but I believe they tend to involve the emotions.

* Holiness: related to Pentecostal, in that they see a second work after salvation, but not so much focused on things like speaking in tongues as perfection of life.

Beyond that there’s a whole variety of churches that I’d call evangelical, which tend to have fairly informal services, involve the feelings a bit more than Anglican but not as much as Pentecostal, but vary in ways that I’m afraid I don't know enough about to explain.

Some, but not all, conservative churches tend to be what I’d call “legalistic,” i.e. they emphasize sets of moral rules. Sexual purity, but often things like never using bad language, not being closely associated with non-Christians (or even non-evangelicals), and at times prohibiting dancing, going to movies etc (though that’s less common now than a few decades ago). A lot of questions in Christian Advice start “is it a sin to …” and often the question is about things you wouldn’t expect. Those are examples of people from legalistic backgrounds.

This will give you a sense of what to look for, but I think you’re going to have to look at churches in your area and get a sense of where they fit into all of this. If they are parts of known denominations I may be able to help you find information about them. You can usually figure it out from their web sites, but you have to know how to "read between the lines," which I do but you may not.

There is actually a forum here “finding a church,” but I’m not sure how useful it will be for SA. And most responses are simply recommendations of their own church, which isn’t going to be too helpful to you. (I’m not recommending my church to you, because I suspect you’re more conservative than I am, and I’m not sure quite what our equivalent is in SA anyway. Probably the church you’re in is about as close as any.)
 
Upvote 0
Jun 16, 2016
8
3
29
Durban
✟22,743.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Thanks a Million Hendrick.

Ill read over all these and take them into account for when I research and look for the right church. If I cant find a church even after researching then ill drop you a message and we can look for church's together. I really appreciate the help and look forward to this journey!
 
Upvote 0