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When you truly get to know the Creator you will realize why your thinking on this point is fatally flawed.I hope I never gave the impression that I think I'm sitting in the place of judgment. I merely said I think it's possible, although very very difficult, to come to the point of being beyond salvation. I never have presumed to say that any person has reached that point. I can only speculate on where that point may be.
When you truly get to know the Creator you will realize why your thinking on this point is fatally flawed.
That is because you think that relationships are static in nature. One always gets to know the other person in a relationship better. Knowing someone less does not mean one does not have a genuine relationship. But that is the problem with Christian theology which makes us doubt our relationship because our knowledge is growing.By saying this you more than suggested I don't "truly" know the Creator. I would have to know Him to have a relationship with Him. And, you made a personal statement about me rather than simply sticking to what you believe and why. This places me in a position where it is necessary to defend myself, rather than merely defend my way of thinking.
Senti, I'm afraid you have. It's perfectly fine to disagree with me and say why, but when you question my relationship with God, you have crossed a line. And just what do you mean by fatally flawed? That I don't have a chance?
This sort of thing is why I don't do debate. Why can't we simply state our beliefs and viewpoints, without getting personal? May I remind you, just as you said to me, that you are not in my head and do not know how I relate to the Lord?
That is because you think that relationships are static in nature. One always gets to know the other person in a relationship better. Knowing someone less does not mean one does not have a genuine relationship. But that is the problem with Christian theology which makes us doubt our relationship because our knowledge is growing.
That's a tone you choose to pick up for whatever reason. I did not say "if you know God" for precisely this reason. I did not want you coming back and accusing me of saying that you do not know Him. I guess no good deed goes unpunished.I never suggested that relationships are static in nature. I was taking a snapshot of various mentalities, at the moment. Things do change. On that I think we can agree.
And the tone I'm picking up from you is, "Don't worry, little girl. You'll understand better when you grow up." This, I find quite patronizing.
That's a tone you choose to pick up for whatever reason. I did not say "if you know God" for precisely this reason. I did not want you coming back and accusing me of saying that you do not know Him. I guess no good deed goes unpunished.
I hope I never gave the impression that I think I'm sitting in the place of judgment. I merely said I think it's possible, although very very difficult, to come to the point of being beyond salvation. I never have presumed to say that any person has reached that point. I can only speculate on where that point may be.
What portion of her statement do you find fatally flawed here, and in what way? Moriah really wants to know and asks honestly on an impersonal level. Do you mean to suggest that once one really gets to know the Creator one WILL think some people bes beyond salvation? Or bes you talksy about something else entirely in that quote?When you truly get to know the Creator you will realize why your thinking on this point is fatally flawed.
Apropos of absolutely nothing on this thread, Moriah gets that kind of mind-twisting treatment so often it bes not even funny. Thank you for giving it a concise statement to name and define such things. It finds most difficult the articulation of such...In accusing me of being judgmental, you judged *me.* And when I state how your [ words | actions ] make me feel, again you put the onus on me. If I'm offended it's my fault, certainly not yours, for you are 100% correct in anything you say. You take no responsibility for your words.
What portion of her statement do you find fatally flawed here, and in what way? Moriah really wants to know and asks honestly on an impersonal level. Do you mean to suggest that once one really gets to know the Creator one WILL think some people bes beyond salvation? Or bes you talksy about something else entirely in that quote?
Lovebirds, hope you do not mind the inquiry here as Moriah wants to know what Senti bes thinksy on when he says that.
What portion of her statement do you find fatally flawed here, and in what way?
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