So confused on the Sabbath...

OntheDL · Nov 7, 2006

Jerrysch said:
Could you provide that evidence? A simple Scriptural reference would be enough.

Before the 10 commandments were given on Mount Sinai (recorded in Exodus 20):

Exodus 16
21 And they gathered it every morning, every man according to his eating: and when the sun waxed hot, it melted.
22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein. 25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.

ThreeAM · Nov 7, 2006

Jerrysch said:
Where does Scripture indicate that YHWH gave the command to Adam and Eve to observe the Sabbath? Where in Scripture do we see them observing it?

Where does sthe scripture say that Adam and Eve did not observe the 7th day of the week that God had made HOLY in the the Garden of Eden? The information in the bible before the time of Moses is not extremely detailed is it? Obviously Cain Knew what he should offer as a sacrifice and so did Abel but where does the scriptures tell what they were told to give? Obviously Cain knew it was wrong to slay Abel but were does the scriptures tell Cain it was wrong before he commited murder. Just because it isn't mentioned does not mean it did not happen. The sabbath was made for MAN and God made the sabbath HOLY. It is logical that MAN kept the Sabbath Holy.

Jerrysch said:
I have already answered this question in an earlier post. Would you like it in more detail?

Sure

Jerrysch said:
Could you provide that evidence? A simple Scriptural reference would be enough.

Not a problem:

Exd 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

And what is the Sabbath? A specific day of rest for religious reasons right. A day where work ceased and sacrifices to God were made. Now God specificaly Blessed and made Holy the 7th day for a day of rest right?

Exo 5:3 And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we pray thee, three days' journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the LORD our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword. 4. And the king of Egypt said unto them, Wherefore do ye, Moses and Aaron, let the people from their works? get you unto your burdens. 5.And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now [are] many, and ye make them rest from their burdens....8.And the tale of the bricks, which they did make heretofore, ye shall lay upon them; ye shall not diminish ought thereof: for they be idle; therefore they cry, saying, Let us go and sacrifice to our God.

Jerrysch said:
If Adam had been commanded to observe the Sabbath he just might have done so, yet he never was, was he?

Well we know that the Sabbath was made for MAN and the Sabbath was made HOLY in the Garden of Eden. We know that MAN kept the Sabbath BEFORE the Ten Commandments were given on Sinai. Why would MAN keep the Sabbath before mount Sinai if God had not already given the Sabbath to Man before Mount Sinai. Do you have a specfic scripture that says Adam and Eve rejected the fact that God made the Sabbath HOLY and BLESSED by ignoring the 7th day.

Jerrysch said:
ThreeAM said:

There is evidence that God's comandments were given verbaly to Man prior to the giving of the written commandments at Sinai.

Do you mean the 613, that which constituted the Mosic Law? We are talking about the 613 you know. That which the Sabbath observance is but one.

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No I'm talking about the TEN Commandments the ONLY thing in the bible that personaly written by God. The TEN Commandment were written on stone and placed INSIDE of the ark. The 613 were recorded by Moses and were kept outside the ark.

1Ki 8:9 There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone, which Moses put there at Horeb, when the LORD made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.

Each of the principles of the TEN Commandments can be found in the scriptures prior to the giving of the Ten Commandments on mount Sinai. The Ten Commandment which were given in written form were known to MAN prior to Sinai.

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments [mitsvah], my statutes, and my laws.

Exd 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments [mitsvah] and my laws?

Exd 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.[mitsvah]

Exd 24:12 And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them. [mitsvah]

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Hbr 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Jerrysch said:

The Mosiac Law was not the only group of Commandments which YHWH expressed. He gave commands to Adam and Eve which He did not give to any one else.

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God made the 7th day Holy and Blessed for MAN the day after Creating MAN. The only Man around was Adam..and EVE.

ThreeAM · Nov 7, 2006

Jerrysch said:
I did not say that I stated that it was a provision of the Mosiac Covenant which YHWH made between Himself and ethnic Israel. I don't recall referring to "Jews" at all.

You said ethnic Israel are you saying that the Jews were not a part of the nation of Israel's religious, tribal or cultural back ground??? Perhaps you need to be more specific.

Webster's dictionary

Ethnic

2 a : of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background <ethnic minorities> <ethnic enclaves> b : being a member of a specified ethnic group

Israel

1 : [SIZE=-1]JACOB [/SIZE]2
2 : the Jewish people
3 : a people chosen by God
- Israel adjective

Jerrysch · Nov 7, 2006

OntheDL said:
Before the 10 commandments were given on Mount Sinai (recorded in Exodus 20):

Exodus 16
21 And they gathered it every morning, every man according to his eating: and when the sun waxed hot, it melted.
22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein. 25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.

Well, you got me on that one . Yet there is no indication that this observance was directed to anyone other than ethnic Israel, and the observance was indeed given to the Exodus generation in close proxcimity to the giving of the 613. You have not however demonstrated how it was given nor onserved by any other group other than ethnic Israel. You have yet to show how an ordinance given to ethnic Israel was transfered to the body od Messiah in this day. You have yet to show why this oneof the 613 is to be observed while the other 612 are not. But you did get me on one issue, good for you

Jerrysch · Nov 7, 2006

ThreeAM said:
Where does sthe scripture say that Adam and Eve did not observe the 7th day of the week that God had made HOLY in the the Garden of Eden?

That is the point, the Scripture does not say that they did. If this is as important as you would like us to believe, and that it is some sort of "creation ordinance" were did they observe it? If it really was what you suggest there would have been some statement of the observance, you are employing what is known as an arguement from silence.

ThreeAM · Nov 7, 2006

Jerrysch said:
That is the point, the Scripture does not say that they did. If this is as important as you would like us to believe, and that it is some sort of "creation ordinance" were did they observe it? If it really was what you suggest there would have been some statement of the observance, you are employing what is known as an arguement from silence.

There is also silence about Adam and Eve violationg the Sabbath so you make the same assumptons. I assume they observed the HOLY BLESSED 7th SABBATH that God made at creation for MAN and you assume they violated the HOLY BLESSED Sabbath that God made for MAN. You show me the verse where they violated the Sabbath and I'll show you the verse where they observed the Sabbath. Its obvious that Cain knew murder was a sin because he tired to hide the fact that he murdered his brother. Where exactly did God tell Cain murder was a sin before Cain tried to concel his sin? There is only silence. Why would He hold Cain guilty of something when Cain had not been told by God it was wrong to do?

God blessed the 7th day at creation it was a HOLY day why make it HOLY and keep it a secret from MAN for 2000 years.

NIV Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: [When was MAN made anyway???]

Exd 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

It is pretty hard to bless something that doesn't exist.

RonnyRulz · Nov 7, 2006

I'm too lazy to research this and look up the scripture...

But I'm pretty sure somewhere in the Bible it actually says every day is a Sabbath day.

That when you give up yourself, stop doing your own work, and beginning to do God's work, you forever enter into a Sabbath-rest where every moment is a sabbath because every moment you do God's work, and rest from your own.

Rest from your own righteousness to do God's righteousness. Sabbath-rest.

I'll try to find the scripture?

RonnyRulz · Nov 7, 2006

Is this it?

Hebrews 4
A Sabbath-Rest for the People of God

1Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. 2For we also have had the gospel preached to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith.[a] 3Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
"So I declared on oath in my anger,
'They shall never enter my rest.' "[b] And yet his work has been finished since the creation of the world. 4For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: "And on the seventh day God rested from all his work."[c] 5And again in the passage above he says, "They shall never enter my rest."

6It still remains that some will enter that rest, and those who formerly had the gospel preached to them did not go in, because of their disobedience. 7Therefore God again set a certain day, calling it Today, when a long time later he spoke through David, as was said before:
"Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts."[d] 8For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following their example of disobedience. 12For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

ThreeAM · Nov 8, 2006

RonnyRulz said:
I'm too lazy to research this and look up the scripture...

But I'm pretty sure somewhere in the Bible it actually says every day is a Sabbath day.

That when you give up yourself, stop doing your own work, and beginning to do God's work, you forever enter into a Sabbath-rest where every moment is a sabbath because every moment you do God's work, and rest from your own.

Rest from your own righteousness to do God's righteousness. Sabbath-rest.

I'll try to find the scripture?

Don't bother looking it does not exist.

Sleaker · Nov 8, 2006

Sleaker said:
Honestly I'm coming to the point where I think communion is the NT Sabbath.
Okay I'm going to ask it outright because I think the implication in my last post were overlooked. What difference does it make if I observe the Jewish Sabbath as seen in the Old Testament or Not?

Original Question!

Iosias · Nov 9, 2006

Genesis 26:5 "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

What are the commandments, statutes and laws here refered to?

Sleaker · Nov 9, 2006

AV1611 said:
Genesis 26:5 "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

What are the commandments, statutes and laws here refered to?

Abrahamic covenant no? Didn't God make a covenant with Abraham? Isn't that considered 'Law' i don't think the reference is to a covenant that doesn't exist, nor something that God did not tell Abraham to do. The verse is in reference to the things that God had already told Abraham to do and how he Obeyed them. It can't be a reference to a Law that God would give in the future, although Abrahams actions may have been congrous with the later Law that doesn't mean that God made the same covenant, or gave Abraham the same Law as moses.

Jerrysch · Nov 9, 2006

ThreeAM said:
You said ethnic Israel are you saying that the Jews were not a part of the nation of Israel's religious, tribal or cultural back ground??? Perhaps you need to be more specific.

All of ethnic Israel are not just Jews. Being Jewish is a "subset" of being of ethnic Israel. It goes loke this
Abraham... Issac.... Jacob (Israel) ... Jews. (Starting at the larger and going to the smaller). The promices were not just given to Jews but to all of the seed of Israel. That is what I am saying.

Jerrysch · Nov 9, 2006

ThreeAM said:
There is also silence about Adam and Eve violationg the Sabbath so you make the same assumptons.

Actually it is not the same at all. You are the one suggesting that they kept the Sabbath, it is up to you to provide evidence that they did so. It is highly unlikely in that the whole consept of a Sabbath was only revieled to ethnic Israel at the time of the Exodus. No one else. If it was revieled, where is the Scriptural evidence of the fact? Where does Scripture indicate anyone prior to the time of the exodus generation of ethnic Israel observed it. Did Job? Did Abraham? Did Issac? Did Jacob? Did Enoch? Not a one did.

Jerrysch · Nov 9, 2006

ThreeAM said:
There is also silence about Adam and Eve violationg the Sabbath so you make the same assumptons. I assume they observed the HOLY BLESSED 7th SABBATH that God made at creation for MAN and you assume they violated the HOLY BLESSED Sabbath that God made for MAN. You show me the verse where they violated the Sabbath and I'll show you the verse where they observed the Sabbath.

Your assumptions are not based upon any Biblical evidence at all, if so provide the evidence.

They could not have violated the Sabbath because it had not been given until the generation of the exodus and to ethnic Israel alone.

ThreeAM · Nov 12, 2006

Jerrysch said:
Your assumptions are not based upon any Biblical evidence at all, if so provide the evidence.

They could not have violated the Sabbath because it had not been given until the generation of the exodus and to ethnic Israel alone.

And where is the written command not to commit adultry given in the Bible prior to the exodus yet Joseph knew adultry was a sin against God prior to any written command.

Gen. 39:7 And it came to pass after these things, that his master's wife cast her eyes upon Joseph; and she said, Lie with me.8.But he refused, and said unto his master's wife, Behold, my master wotteth not what [is] with me in the house, and he hath committed all that he hath to my hand;9 [There is] none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou [art] his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God?

There is no evidence in the scriptures that man was told by God not to commit adultry pror to Joseph but Joesph recognized it as sin. And yet Joeseph did not commit the SIN of adultry. By your reasoning it should have been OK for Joseph to commit adultry because Adultry wasn't given as a written command until Mount Sinai.

And why did God destroy the world with a flood due to man's sin if man did not have the knowledge of what sin was and was not?

Sure my assumptions are based on biblical evidence. God made the Sabbath on the 7th day of creation to commemorate Himself as the Creator of the world.

NKJV Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

You can't bless something and make it Holy if it does not exist. The 7th day was made HOLY as a Sabbath on the 7th day of creation the day after He created MAN not 2000 years later. If God only wanted Ethinic Israel to observe the Sabbath. Then He would have blessed and made HOLY the 7th day on mount Sinai not 2000 years before.

As creatures of God all men need to remember that it was God that created us, and that is the purpose of the Sabbath.

God made the Sabbath for MAN the day after MAN was created.

Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for Man [anthropos]...

Strong's 444

Anthropos

1) a human being, whether male or female a) generically, to include all human individuals

Christ could have said the sabbath was made for ethnic Israel only but He didn't say that did He? I find Christ never wasted words He said exactly what He meant.

Just because the Bible doesn't mention the fact that Man was observing the Sabbath as a Holy day prior to the exodus does not mean that the Sabbath did not exist as a HOLY day given to MAN at creation by God our Creator.

If you assume the Sabbath was only given to ethnic Israel only then the other 9 commandments that God wrote with his finger on stone apply only to ethnic Israel also. So go ahead and profane God's name etc. etc. he won't care ...right?

In heaven ALL FLESH will worship God on the sabbath.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isa 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

JAL · Nov 12, 2006

One of (several) reasons for my disagreement with sabbatarians is that they don't take literally what they want us to take literally. The command given in Exodus states (to Israe) that you SHALL rest on the sabbath and, based on that SHALL, we are to do the same, supposedly. But that isn't the only SHALL in the passage. This is how the command is given, "Six days you SHALL labor, and on the seventh you SHALL rest." Sabbatarians don't take the first Shall literally. They say, what it REALLY means (LOL on my part) is that we have six days for our responsibilities, one day unto the Lord. If that isn't bad enough, I then ask them how they would justify a two week vaction in the Bahama (what happed to working six days a week?). All legalists violate their own legalistic rules when it suits them.

You can't have it both ways. Either the command is universal and must be taken literally or there are exceptions. If there are exceptions then He who called Himself LORD OF THE SABBATH is the only one who can decide how to apply His own rules - He decides what nations, what generations, what communities, and what individuals (if any) must celebrate the Sabbath, how they must celebrate it, and when they must celebrate, It takes considerable arrogance and presumption for some sabbatarian Bible scholar (as he studies his bible in the midst of his two vacation) to try to dictate TO THE REST OF US how to spend our Saturdays. That's the role of the Holy Spirit whose voice leads each Christian invidusally for my sheep hear my voice (Jn 10:27). The sabbath was binding on Israel for one reason only - it was the voice of God speaking to the whole nation of Israel AT ONCE loud and clear at Ex 19-20 (His voice literally shook the mountain - see heb 12).

One of the (several) points Jesus made against the sabbatarians was asking them, "Do you feed your animals on the sabbath - and then you mean to tell me it's wrong to labor on the sabbath to feed your loved family members - you hypocrites!" I know sabbatarians who would risk losing their jobs - which feeds their loves ones - to take a "stand" for abstaining from work on Saturdays - only to go home and feed their pets on that same day!

ThreeAM · Nov 12, 2006

Jerrysch said:
Actually it is not the same at all. You are the one suggesting that they kept the Sabbath, it is up to you to provide evidence that they did so. It is highly unlikely in that the whole consept of a Sabbath was only revieled to ethnic Israel at the time of the Exodus. No one else. If it was revieled, where is the Scriptural evidence of the fact? Where does Scripture indicate anyone prior to the time of the exodus generation of ethnic Israel observed it. Did Job? Did Abraham? Did Issac? Did Jacob? Did Enoch? Not a one did.

Are you suggesting that the scriptures give us EVERY detail of Job's, Abraham's, Issac's, and Jacob's life? If so they lived very minimal life because there are few details. In the case of Abraham why was he blessed. He was blessed because he was obedient and followed God's commandments. The same exact word for GOD'S commandment is used to decribe the commandments that Abraham kept and the Ten Commandments that God wrote with His finger. So it is safe to say that Abraham kept the 4th commandment also.

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

The commandments were known to man BEFORE God wrote them down in stone as a reminder for a very sinful ethnic Israel exiting 300 years on Pagan occupation. Israel was so paganized that Arron the future high priest of Israel help build a golden calf and credited it for safe passage from Egypt while God was writing the Ten Commandments down to remind them of the importance of following God's law.

Exo 32:4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

The purpose of Israel was to restore God's plan for Man. God called them out of paganizm and re-explained his plan for Man to them. They were suppose to spread the message of the Kingdom of God to the rest of the world, which they failed to do.

Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

ThreeAM · Nov 12, 2006

JAL said:
One of (several) reasons for my disagreement with sabbatarians is that they don't take literally what they want us to take literally. The command given in Exodus states (to Israe) that you SHALL rest on the sabbath and, based on that SHALL, we are to do the same, supposedly. But that isn't the only SHALL in the passage. This is how the command is given, "Six days you SHALL labor, and on the seventh you SHALL rest." Sabbatarians don't take the first Shall literally. They say, what it REALLY means (LOL on my part) is that we have six days for our responsibilities, one day unto the Lord. If that isn't bad enough, I then ask them how they would justify a two week vaction in the Bahama (what happed to working six days a week?). All legalists violate their own legalistic rules when it suits them.

It's pretty simiple

What it really say is: "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work" on Vacation all my work is done and there is no work to do.

God set aside the 7th and made it HOLY. It is therefore DIFFERENT from the days 1,2,3,4,5,6, of the week. Those days are set aside for the purpose of work and the persuit of a livelyhood. The Sabbath is dedicated to our slowing down our life to specificly spend the day remebering our Creator. Does that mean we cannot remember the Creator DAILY. Absoluty not we should daily walk with God. The Sabbath however is special to God and was made special at Creation. No other day of the week was made special and Holy by God. I must laugh at your vacation example. When on vacation God still expects us to set asside th Sabbath as a special day. The activities on the Sabbath are different than the other days of vaction. Part of my job is my vaction I get vaction because I need to restore myself to be more efficent at rest of my job the entire year. So vaction is nothing more than periotic maintance of the equipement I use to do my job with.

Any smart company maintanes its equipment well that's the reason we get vacation as PART of our job.

You can't have it both ways. Either the command is universal and must be taken literally or there are exceptions. If there are exceptions then He who called Himself LORD OF THE SABBATH is the only one who can decide how to apply His own rules - He decides what nations, what generations, what communities, and what individuals (if any) must celebrate the Sabbath, how they must celebrate it, and when they must celebrate, It takes considerable arrogance and presumption for some sabbatarian Bible scholar (as he studies his bible in the midst of his two vacation) to try to dictate TO THE REST OF US how to spend our Saturdays. That's the role of the Holy Spirit whose voice leads each Christian invidusally for my sheep hear my voice (Jn 10:27). The sabbath was binding on Israel for one reason only - it was the voice of God speaking to the whole nation of Israel AT ONCE loud and clear at Ex 19-20 (His voice literally shook the mountain - see heb 12).

Look in Exodus 20 for God's explaination of His rules.

One of the (several) points Jesus made against the sabbatarians was asking them, "Do you feed your animals on the sabbath - and then you mean to tell me it's wrong to labor on the sabbath to feed your loved family members - you hypocrites!" I know sabbatarians who would risk losing their jobs - which feeds their loves ones - to take a "stand" for abstaining from work on Saturdays - only to go home and feed their pets on that same day!

I can tell you story after story of people I know who have lost their job's because they have decided to follow God and keep the Sabbath. THESE PEOPLE HAD FAITH IN THEIR GOD TO PROVIDE FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILES WHERE IS YOUR FAITH IN GOD??? I heard one last week from a member of my church that almost doubled his salery after being terminated for not working on the sabbath. He was without work for 3 weeks but he recieved a sizable bonus from his former company even though the company could have with held the bonus legally. His new job has every Sabbath off his boss is a praticing Jew and takes Sabbaths off and he makes about 50K a year more. God provides for His children can we hear and amen? People who make a stand for God and end up loosing their jobs for it generally end up with a better job if not finacially better at least one the is better for them spritualy.

Once my father almost lost his job because of the Sabbath. The non-Christian supervisor was purposly persecuting him over the Sabbath he didn't like the fact that dad was a Christian. Over 20 of my dad's co-workers went over the supervisor's head to the plant manager about the issue. The supervisor lost his job and guess who became supervisor...you guessed it. After accepting the Sabbath my father always feed his family and always kept the sabbath.

Your problem is you have more faith in your ablitly to feed your family than God's ability to feed your family. You say God is all powerful and provides for you but you don't trust in Him to provide for you? When you say grace over your food who do you thank for providing that food yourself or God? Who is the hypocrit here?

Feeding animals on the Sabbath?

Mar 3:4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.

It is Lawful to do good on the Sabbath but if feeding the dog gets in the way of going to church each week like a job can its time to sell the dog.

JAL · Nov 12, 2006

ThreeAM said:
It's pretty simiple

What it really say is: "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work" on Vacation all my work is done and there is no work to do.

Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work" on Vacation all my work is done and there is no work to do.

Then you are not taking it literally. Based on your sort of logic (I got all my work done), you could also justify Saturday-labor as follows, "This week I had all my work done by Thursday, so on Friday I rested all day.Since I got all my resting done on Friday, I didn't need need to rest on Saturday. So I worked Saturday." The whole rigid paradigm breaks down once you start making exceptions. Tell me something, does the text say, or does it NOT say, "Six days shalt thou labor." If it does, and if you say we are to take the text literally (no exceptions), then we MUST work six days a week. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

So confused on the Sabbath...

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