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Snake Punishment

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Now, the bible is pretty clear in genesis that snakes are cursed to crawl on their bellies, but can this really be considered a curse? First of all, snakes are very diverse, have speciated much and hardly ever had taxa go extinct. Snakes are incredibly successful ambush predators, and owe much of their success to having no legs. In addition, it appears some early scaled amphibians such as ophiderpeton have gone the legless route, as have the legless lizards (which are not snakes).

Can snakes really be considered "cursed"? I don't think so, but I want others to give me their opinions.
 

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Now, the bible is pretty clear in genesis that snakes are cursed to crawl on their bellies, but can this really be considered a curse? First of all, snakes are very diverse, have speciated much and hardly ever had taxa go extinct. Snakes are incredibly successful ambush predators, and owe much of their success to having no legs. In addition, it appears some early scaled amphibians such as ophiderpeton have gone the legless route, as have the legless lizards (which are not snakes).

Can snakes really be considered "cursed"? I don't think so, but I want others to give me their opinions.

For a logic consideration, we need to know what was the conditions of snake before the curse. Did it have four legs? six legs? or 8 legs? or more? What was the advantages?
 
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For a logic consideration, we need to know what was the conditions of snake before the curse. Did it have four legs? six legs? or 8 legs? or more? What was the advantages?

Are you suggesting that God created the snake poorly? And that the loss of legs is an improvement?
 
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Now, the bible is pretty clear in genesis that snakes are cursed to crawl on their bellies...
No, It isn't --- It says "the serpent".

The serpent, in Adam and Eve's time, was a beast of the field --- specifically a dragon.
 
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No, It isn't --- It says "the serpent".

The serpent, in Adam and Eve's time, was a beast of the field --- specifically a dragon.
Because as we all know, dragons are very real creatures and they all get about by squirming around on their belly.

Thanks for the smile. :thumbsup:
 
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Because as we all know, dragons are very real creatures and they all get about by squirming around on their belly.

Thanks for the smile. :thumbsup:
Are?

This is what happens when you guys think it was a snake. Then, since God cursed this beast, all beasts of that kind became snakes. Thus the snakes we see are supposedly these morphed I-don't-know-what-they-were-but-they-became-snakes animals.

God cursed one dragon, and one dragon ate dust on its belly the rest of its life.

Thanks for the smile. :thumbsup:
 
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Because as we all know, dragons are very real creatures and they all get about by squirming around on their belly.

Thanks for the smile. :thumbsup:

arn't you an evilutionist? don't they believe in fossils? what do you think fossils used to be?
 
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AV1611VET said:
since God cursed this beast, all beasts of that kind became snakes.
So this beast became snakes (plural). And you say this beast was a dragon..

God cursed one dragon,
Yet you say
and one dragon ate dust on its belly the rest of its life.
Which implies the dragon---ONE dragon mind you-- remained a dragon. Care to make to your mind? Or are snakes really dragons? And just where do you get the idea it was a dragon in the first place?




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arn't you an evilutionist? don't they believe in fossils? what do you think fossils used to be?
I'm an evolutionist if that's what you mean. But I fail to see what your trying to get at. :confused:
 
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I think it should be pointed out that the ajolote (the lizard pictured) still has two legs.
Give him a break --- he only missed it by two.
 
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