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Smollett Charged With Crime

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After weeks of the public both supporting and becoming skeptical of Jussie Smollett...he has been charged with filing a false police report.

Actor charged with false attack report

On Wednesday a police spokesman said felony criminal charges had been approved against the actor.

Mr Smollett had been charged for "disorderly conduct / filing a false police report", the spokesman, Anthony Guglielmi, said in a tweet .

"Detectives will make contact with his legal team to negotiate a reasonable surrender for his arrest."

I'm sure many will speculate on his innocence/guilt...but with the evidence against him, I suspect he's guilty. Supposedly, two men who helped him perpetrate this hoax admitted to doing so, and there is physical evidence of them buying the materials used. I know that he has continued to maintain his innocence through his lawyer...but that's not easy evidence to explain with any defense.

I'm hoping that if he's guilty, even if he accepts a plea...he's willing to admit what he has done. I'm not going to guess what his motives were, but before anyone mentions the "hate letter" he received...it's worth noting that he may have perpetrated that as a hoax as well. It is being investigated.

Some blame the media for helping along his narrative...but I think that's wrong. Telling his claims about the crime he reported is fair...and though some doubted this from the beginning...I see no reason to speculate on it's validity from a journalistic standpoint.

What is clear is that he played upon the biases, prejudice, and lack of internal dialogue on the left...which he is a part of. I don't doubt that he knew he would get support from the left, and he took advantage of it...for whatever reason.

Many on the left lament the fact that this will undoubtedly be used to cast doubt on future hate crimes...and that may be. I'm more concerned about the fact that the left seems to not realize why they bought into this so easily...and I tend to think it's because they have spent years trying to silence anybody on their side who might have spoken up in doubt of him. Instead, they've pushed the idea that such accusations of racism and homophobia should automatically be believed regardless of merit or evidence...if the person making them is from a "marginalized" group. The left has effectively silenced any internal dialogue on such issues and abandoned critical thinking.
 

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If an actual beating/lynching of any minority had gone viral instead, we'd be talking about how to make society better. This literally sabotaged the leftist narrative.

Jussie Smollett ruined the credibility of other victims [like him, or otherwise] because of his (allegedly) ridiculous sociopathy?

I don't think you meant what I am implying by my [sarcastic] tone, but just in case: I am asking for clarification for the "audience" at large.
 
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I believe what he means is leftist can't find any real examples of racist or bigoted Trump voters so they just make them up.
 
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So some narcissist fakes a hate crime for attention and that means that no one should believe reports of hate crimes?

I think this shows that fake stunts like this are easy to tell apart from genuine attacks. The police found out about it pretty quickly after all. I don't see how you can blame people online for believing him at first, since they didn't have access to the evidence that the police did, and it's not exactly an unbelievable thing to happen to someone. If they still insist that he was telling the truth, and say that the police are in on a conspiracy or something, then that's a real lack of critical thinking.
 
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I believe what he means is leftist can't find any real examples of racist or bigoted Trump voters so they just make them up.
We know that's not true. White supremacists voted for Trump, as did anti-Semites, and the guy the FBI just arrested was a Trump supporter and wanted to kill Democrats.
 
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According to the news report I saw he wanted to kill everyone. That was a quote straight from his notes. Disingenuous to state he wanted to kill only Democrats.
 
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Jussie Smollett ruined the credibility of other victims [like him, or otherwise] because of his (allegedly) ridiculous sociopathy?

I don't think you meant what I am implying by my [sarcastic] tone, but just in case: I am asking for clarification for the "audience" at large.
He didn't ruin the credibility of other victims. I wish an actual victim had gone viral instead. Why do I know Jussie Smollett's name rather than the name of an actual recent victim? Why is everybody talking about his fake assault rather than someone else's real assault?
 
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According to the news report I saw he wanted to kill everyone. That was a quote straight from his notes. Disingenuous to state he wanted to kill only Democrats.
A Coast Guard lieutenant and self-described white nationalist who was arrested in Maryland last week was plotting to kill a long list of prominent journalists and Democratic politicians, as well as professors, judges and what he called “leftists in general,” federal prosecutors said in a court filing on Tuesday.

In 2017 he wrote a letter about killing almost everyone with a plague or something, he didn't have a plan.

In the last month, prosecutors said, the lieutenant used his work computer to draw up a list of prominent figures he called “traitors” and wanted to kill, including many well-known anchors and hosts on the CNN and MSNBC news networks and a number of Democratic elected officials. The list included, among others, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Maxine Waters, Senator Richard Blumenthal, whom he referred to as “Sen blumen jew,” and many of the senators running for president in 2020.
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Following Mr. Breivik’s advice about how to start a race war that would topple liberal governments, Lieutenant Hasson planned to assassinate prominent figures. He performed internet searches for the MSNBC host Joe Scarborough, among others, and for the phrase “civil war if Trump impeached,” the authorities said.

Coast Guard Officer Plotted to Kill Democrats and Journalists, Prosecutors Say

I was not being disingenuous at all. He had it out for people that he saw as enemies of Trump and white nationalists.
 
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He didn't ruin the credibility of other victims. I wish an actual victim had gone viral instead. Why do I know Jussie Smollett's name rather than the name of an actual recent victim? Why is everybody talking about his fake assault rather than someone else's real assault?

Because he's a celebrity fruit loop.
 
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Because he's a celebrity fruit loop.
Real victims that spur the conversations we do need to have don't need to be known at all beforehand. Recent examples: Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.
 
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After weeks of the public both supporting and becoming skeptical of Jussie Smollett...he has been charged with filing a false police report.
Will he be charged with a hate crime?
 
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Real victims that spur the conversations we do need to have don't need to be known at all beforehand. Recent examples: Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.

This generates clicks. Which equals ad revenue. People love watching a train wreck.
 
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Because he's a celebrity fruit loop.
seriously? I suspect if you think real hard about that post there's a part that you might want to rethink using. Not because I think you meant it bad, just that it might not be the best word to describe a black gay actor. :sorry:
tulc(just thought it should be pointed out) :wave:
 
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seriously? I suspect if you think real hard about that post there's a part that you might want to rethink using. Not because I think you meant it bad, just that it might not be the best word to describe a black gay actor. :sorry:
tulc(just thought it should be pointed out) :wave:

Nice one tulc. :oldthumbsup:
 
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Real victims that spur the conversations we do need to have don't need to be known at all beforehand. Recent examples: Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.

Did you see the threads on Philando Castile on here?

This place is toxic for sociological and ethnic conversation. The mere mention of the academic topic gets you labelled as a "liberal dem who supports Hillary and her lies... and Obama". This is even if you make it vehemently clear that you are not part of any politifal facet.

That is why I genuinely asked you what your position was.
 
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Will he be charged with a hate crime?
No he didn't commit a hate crime.
I think he should have to pay the city for all the expenses of the investigation including the wages of all the man hours spent on it.
 
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No he didn't commit a hate crime.
I think he should have to pay the city for all the expenses of the investigation including the wages of all the man hours spent on it.

I also think that his employers should fire him from his TV show.
 
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Did you see the threads on Philando Castile on here?

This place is toxic for sociological and ethnic conversation. The mere mention of the academic topic gets you labelled as a "liberal dem who supports Hillary and her lies... and Obama". This is even if you make it vehemently clear that you are not part of any politifal facet.

That is why I genuinely asked you what your position was.
I did see some of them, back when it happened. There were hard conversations that took place, there were nerves struck, but they needed to happen. At least with that incident people couldn't say it was fake, and they had to actually deal with the issue of police violence.
 
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I did see some of them, back when it happened. There were hard conversations that took place, there were nerves struck, but they needed to happen. At least with that incident people couldn't say it was fake, and they had to actually deal with the issue of police violence.


BS.

It was an exact replica of 1960s if there was internet. It was ignorant conversation that was decades dated, and twice too late. The only thing that was constructive was that people exposed themselves for who they were.

The conversation didn't need to be had if it was going to be so superficial, and repetitive.
 
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