Why does not the Lord, after years of knowing him take away the desire for cigarettes? If not, why doesn't he take away the disease it can cause? I've been smoke-free for 2 years plus, but every day is a struggle...
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Ahhhh, Non-Violent, the question should not even enter that He may not exist, the answer to that is in everything we see. The question is why are you doubting as to why He invented tobacco...well, such a list could go on forever, why alcohol, drugs, dangerous chemicals, it all fits into His plan, as I'm sure do YOU!NonViolent_Warrior said:
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Wow, I can like follow....but, the point is you are angry. Find the anger, deal with, then say take it away and deliver. Fear of death is not the issue, who cares, fact of life. Get saved, sin, and wait for the punishment, then you'll know He's there. (Read this 3 times, you'll understand, He is REAL!)
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RadioJeff1983, I was walking along this evening happy-go-lucky until I stumbled upon your postings. This very post alarmed me greatly. At first I thought I could brush it off and keep going, but soon I found a pain in my bosom, and most hastily, returned here.
Your simple statement is alarmingly and painfully obvious. WHY did god create alcohol, drugs, sexy women, and other things which he knew would temp us and lead us into sin?!?! God knew we humans would enjoy these vices, and lead us to pain, yet he still placed them here on earth. WHY I ask?!?!? This has me very upset now, as you can see. I don't see how human suffering can be part of any plan. More part of a disaster. So this begs the question, did satan put those things here? Or what.
To sumarize my main points. Whenever we hear or observe something we don't like or which does not make sense, we cannot allow ourselves to blindly say that it is part of a great plan when it the item in question obviously could not be part of any plan except for a plan to harm us. What do the Biblical scholars have to say on this?
-Cloud (who wont' be sleeping tonight, while pondering these thoughts).
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Cloud, good points, but...trust me, a far greater power than I, has kept me from cigarettes for 2.4 years... the flesh is weak, but my soul is stronger..........DarkCloud said:
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Deep inside each of us there is a rivera river of life. The river is a wonderful gift, given to each of us by God. This river refreshes, renews, and revitalizes our lives. I'm sure all of us have known people from time to time who have defied all logic and stayed alive years longer than they should have or they've been able to keep up a positive outlook on life even though terrible things had happened to them. Their "river" ran strong and would not stop flowing.
On the other hand, there are those who seem to always be down, whether physically or emotionally. No matter what they seem to try, they can't seem to snap out of it. Their river has been stopped up...and only a little trickle seems to pass through.
God places this river in every one of usit flows with good health, a positive outlook on life, and a generous and forgiving attitude. Ideally, this river flows freely through us. When we allow this flow and keep our well from getting plugged up, there's a peace, an ease, a current that takes us alongeverything seems easier. Good things come our way. When wonderful opportunities are presented to us, we're ready for them.
Many people, however, have allowed their well to become plugged up. Years of neglect have caused the river flow, which used to be strong and powerful, to become choked down to just a small stream. Everything's hardnothing comes easy. People with a stopped-up well have to strive for things that come easily to others. It's as if they've become mired in a mud hole and every step is a struggle. Do you know people like this? Does this sound like you and your life?
I once had a stopped-up well in my life. I struggled, trying to tap into the river that I knew was in me. I was constantly digging dry wellsworking on projects, chasing ideas that were disappointing and unfulfilling. I believed that if I could just make something work, I would be happy; I would find peace and fulfillment. I would strive after these things everyday, but I never found the peace I was looking for. I found, over the years, that I had allowed my well to become stopped-up with "stones and debris." The river no longer flowed freely, and I was miserable.
Although I didn't realize it at the time, I really struggled with issues in my life like unforgiveness, anger, selfishness, offense, and disobedience. These issues became like stones, dirt, and debris that had caused my well to become plugged-up. With God's help, one by one, these issues in my life are being dealt with. It's a long process, but the stones are much smaller today than they used to bethe river of life in me flows much stronger now.
Are you tired of your life being dry, confused, and without direction? Are you weary of having to strive for everything you get in life? Just remember, until you're able to get your well cleared out and unplugged, everything will be difficult, disappointing and unfulfilling. No matter what you try, you'll be unable to taste the water from that river - and that water satisfies like nothing else.
Remember, God put a river of life inside each of us. We just need to tap into that stream by dealing with those things in our life that stop up the flowthings like unforgiveness, selfishness, offense, anger, and disobedience. God can help you to forgive, to see the needs of those around you, to let go of past hurts or wrongs. He wants to help you deal with the stones and debris that are stopping up your well.
Make a choice today to stop spending your life fighting, struggling, and trudging through the mud with every step. Stop taking inventory of what you've lost, and take a good look at what you've got left. Ask God to help you clear out the debristhen enjoy the satisfying flow of the river of life!
On the other hand, there are those who seem to always be down, whether physically or emotionally. No matter what they seem to try, they can't seem to snap out of it. Their river has been stopped up...and only a little trickle seems to pass through.
God places this river in every one of usit flows with good health, a positive outlook on life, and a generous and forgiving attitude. Ideally, this river flows freely through us. When we allow this flow and keep our well from getting plugged up, there's a peace, an ease, a current that takes us alongeverything seems easier. Good things come our way. When wonderful opportunities are presented to us, we're ready for them.
Many people, however, have allowed their well to become plugged up. Years of neglect have caused the river flow, which used to be strong and powerful, to become choked down to just a small stream. Everything's hardnothing comes easy. People with a stopped-up well have to strive for things that come easily to others. It's as if they've become mired in a mud hole and every step is a struggle. Do you know people like this? Does this sound like you and your life?
I once had a stopped-up well in my life. I struggled, trying to tap into the river that I knew was in me. I was constantly digging dry wellsworking on projects, chasing ideas that were disappointing and unfulfilling. I believed that if I could just make something work, I would be happy; I would find peace and fulfillment. I would strive after these things everyday, but I never found the peace I was looking for. I found, over the years, that I had allowed my well to become stopped-up with "stones and debris." The river no longer flowed freely, and I was miserable.
Although I didn't realize it at the time, I really struggled with issues in my life like unforgiveness, anger, selfishness, offense, and disobedience. These issues became like stones, dirt, and debris that had caused my well to become plugged-up. With God's help, one by one, these issues in my life are being dealt with. It's a long process, but the stones are much smaller today than they used to bethe river of life in me flows much stronger now.
Are you tired of your life being dry, confused, and without direction? Are you weary of having to strive for everything you get in life? Just remember, until you're able to get your well cleared out and unplugged, everything will be difficult, disappointing and unfulfilling. No matter what you try, you'll be unable to taste the water from that river - and that water satisfies like nothing else.
Remember, God put a river of life inside each of us. We just need to tap into that stream by dealing with those things in our life that stop up the flowthings like unforgiveness, selfishness, offense, anger, and disobedience. God can help you to forgive, to see the needs of those around you, to let go of past hurts or wrongs. He wants to help you deal with the stones and debris that are stopping up your well.
Make a choice today to stop spending your life fighting, struggling, and trudging through the mud with every step. Stop taking inventory of what you've lost, and take a good look at what you've got left. Ask God to help you clear out the debristhen enjoy the satisfying flow of the river of life!
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DarkCloud said:
Dear Dark Cloud, Anything that God made He made good. Everything that is bad is as a result of the fall. God gave us to enjoy of the world here. The drugs are misused; which were given us for medicinal purposes I would think. That women are beautiful - He tells us not to look to the left or to the right, but straight ahead. That people do what they do, well know what I'm saying. I hope you slept okay pondering our awesome God. So many things we can't know now, we will see in full then what we now see in part. I think that God would love that we ponder about Him and His ways.
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