Smith Wigglesworth: WoF?

[riverpastor]

It's been years since I read anything on Smith Wigglesworth.

Do any of you know if his belief was essentially WoF in any form?

I know that he suffered at one time with kidney stones (but never required surgery which he prophesied) but in the end, he died of natural causes.

The doctors' report was that he was the perfect specimen of health when he died...

An evangelist friend of mine told me years ago that this is how his father died. He (the father) was an AoG pastor all of his life.

He was in perfect health when he called all his children home to say his "goodbyes".

There was nothing wrong with him physically. He had retired from the pastorate years prior to this.

When he told his children that the Lord was "calling him home", they all rebutted him.

His usual daily routine was to get up early in the morning and drink a cup of coffee outside while praying. He would often sit in his old wheel barrow out on his farm and pray till morning.

The morning he died, his family found him outside with his coffe cup on the ground and he was sitting in his wheel barrow. He had taken the time to put on his favorite suit...

He died of nothing. He was full of joy the evening before and just knew when he got up that next morning that he was going to leave this world...

He was a Word man, grew up on the backbone of Oral Roberts and Kenneth Hagin... Was never sick according to his son.
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[Tatu]

Wow good testimony! HalleluJah! I believe I'll retell that one some day!

I say Smiddy was WoF.

 

[DiscipleWhomJesusLoves]

I'm not sure. I read many of his books but don't think he was explicitly WOF. Don;t recall him saying anything about confessing scriptures, standing on scriptures etc.

He was more a trust-God-no-matter-what person. He was known more for his very bold, unwavering faith in healing the sick. They don't call him the Apostle of Faith for nothing!

 

[chilifrankplate]

I believe he would qualify. He had faith in the word of God above everything else. Just look at his ministry, he knew that if it said it in the word, then it was true, and he acted on it. Regardless of what might be going on in the natural, he walked by faith.

 

[lismore]

If you read Kenneth Hagin books he quotes quite a lot from Smith Wigglesworth. So I would say yes Smith was WOF. He stood on the word for healing, empowerment etc.

 

[victoryword]

Smith Wigglesworth was a PENTECOSTAL!!! The WoF basically adheres to most of the original Pentecostal teachings. Many current Pentecostals do not accept the original teachings though they still like to mention Wigglesworth as one of their heroes. Yet, when one reads some of Wigglesworth teachings, if he were alive today, he would be considered WoF. Here is a quote by him that would leave one without doubt:

I am not moved by what I see. I am moved only by what I believe. I know this-no man looks at appearances if he believes. No man considers how he feels if he believes. The man who believes God has it. (Ever Increasing Faith, Chap 3)

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How many WoF preachers use this or a similar statement today? How many Christians, including a number of today's Pentecostals believe that such a statement is "extreme" and "fanatical?"

 

[victoryword]

By the way, if anyone has read the A/G's position paper on "Positive Confession" they will definitely see a retreat from what Wigglesworth taught. For example, the A/G's position paper, in criticism of current faith teachers says:

Some make a distinction between acknowledging the symptoms of an illness and the illness itself.
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Yah, but so did many of the A/G forerunners such as Lillian B. Yeomans, Cornelius NUzum, P. C. Nelson, and Smith Wigglesworth. Last Sunday I visited a very wonderful and growing A/G church in our city. The pastor seemed to be a fan of Wigglesworth and quoted part of a popular statement by him: "There is no man who can doubt if he learns to shout." Here is Wigglesworth's full statement:

It is time people knew how to shout in faith as they contemplate the eternal power of our God to whom it is nothing to quicken and raise the dead … You must learn to take the victory and shout in the face of the devil, "It is done!" There is no man who can doubt if he learns to shout. (Ever Increasing Faith, Chap 7)
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In this statement, Wigglesworth was teaching from Romans 4:17 which says that God calls those things that be not as though they were. Wigglesworth believes that we were to shout the victory BEFORE we saw the manifestation of whatever it is we are seeking God for (particularly healing). Notice that Wigglesworth says we are to say to the devil "It is DONE."

In today's Christian circles, that would be called a WoF teaching and many Pentecostals would be quick to get away from that (Note: not saying that the pastor of the church I visited is like that. On the contrary I enjoyed my time there).

Before Smith Wigglesworth or the Pentecostal Movement for that matter, A. B. Simpson, Andrew Murray, Charles Spurgeon, Phoebe Palmer, Hannah Whitall Smith and many others taught this, positive confession, and other things that are now considered to be distinctly WoF.

 

[Optimax]

Any man that raised the dead during his ministry I will study about what ever he is called.

 

[kooolfriend]

Ya, a woffer!

 

[psalms 91]

By the way, if anyone has read the A/G's position paper on "Positive Confession" they will definitely see a retreat from what Wigglesworth taught. For example, the A/G's position paper, in criticism of current faith teachers says:

Some make a distinction between acknowledging the symptoms of an illness and the illness itself.

​

Yah, but so did many of the A/G forerunners such as Lillian B. Yeomans, Cornelius NUzum, P. C. Nelson, and Smith Wigglesworth. Last Sunday I visited a very wonderful and growing A/G church in our city. The pastor seemed to be a fan of Wigglesworth and quoted part of a popular statement by him: "There is no man who can doubt if he learns to shout." Here is Wigglesworth's full statement:

It is time people knew how to shout in faith as they contemplate the eternal power of our God to whom it is nothing to quicken and raise the dead … You must learn to take the victory and shout in the face of the devil, "It is done!" There is no man who can doubt if he learns to shout. (Ever Increasing Faith, Chap 7)

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In this statement, Wigglesworth was teaching from Romans 4:17 which says that God calls those things that be not as though they were. Wigglesworth believes that we were to shout the victory BEFORE we saw the manifestation of whatever it is we are seeking God for (particularly healing). Notice that Wigglesworth says we are to say to the devil "It is DONE."

In today's Christian circles, that would be called a WoF teaching and many Pentecostals would be quick to get away from that (Note: not saying that the pastor of the church I visited is like that. On the contrary I enjoyed my time there).

Before Smith Wigglesworth or the Pentecostal Movement for that matter, A. B. Simpson, Andrew Murray, Charles Spurgeon, Phoebe Palmer, Hannah Whitall Smith and many others taught this, positive confession, and other things that are now considered to be distinctly WoF.

Yes, it is not new but Wigglesworth definitely had WOF teaching but I would also call him a holiness preacher

 

[victoryword]

Yes, it is not new but Wigglesworth definitely had WOF teaching but I would also call him a holiness preacher

Yes, Wigglesworth came out of the holiness movement (as most other Pentecostals did), probably what might be a missing lement and the reason for the lack of power among so many of today's so-called WoFers and Charismatics.

However, I am seeing a move back towards holiness emphasis. Just the other day I heard Creflo Dollar teaching his congregation about Lasciviousness and warning them about it but also teaching them how to overcome it.

 

[J4Jesus]

Wigglesworth is over a SF P/C right now. I was talking to him. No kidding

 

[riverpastor]

Yes, Wigglesworth came out of the holiness movement (as most other Pentecostals did), probably what might be a missing lement and the reason for the lack of power among so many of today's so-called WoFers and Charismatics.

However, I am seeing a move back towards holiness emphasis. Just the other day I heard Creflo Dollar teaching his congregation about Lasciviousness and warning them about it but also teaching them how to overcome it.

Teaching on the Christian's new identity IN Christ covers every area and aspect of our lives.

Righteousness and Holiness will result in a people who are constantly brought back to their identity in Christ...

 

[revduane]

Smith was a great man of faith. His documented healings, by the power of God are, well, legendary.

He is a mentor of mine. Just by reading his books, and his semon outlines.

One thing I need to comment though. Every time I pick up a book of his, the annointing is overwhelming. He is called one of God's Generals.

And God took a a plummer that had no speech, or preaching abilities. He was like Moses. Bad speaker in the beginning.

If you want more info, also look up Lester Summeral.

Blessings. Rev. Duane

 

[J4Jesus]

Smith was a great man of faith. His documented healings, by the power of God are, well, legendary.

He is a mentor of mine. Just by reading his books, and his semon outlines.

One thing I need to comment though. Every time I pick up a book of his, the annointing is overwhelming. He is called one of God's Generals.

And God took a a plummer that had no speech, or preaching abilities. He was like Moses. Bad speaker in the beginning.

If you want more info, also look up Lester Summeral.

Blessings. Rev. Duane

Hey RevDuane!
Where you been for so long? I never see you on here anymore. Dont make yourself so scarce

Bless you

 

[revduane]

Hey RevDuane!
Where you been for so long? I never see you on here anymore. Dont make yourself so scarce

Bless you

I haven't been posting a whole lot lately. Good to see you too.

I have also been moonlighting in the GT for awhile. Lots of fighting going on there. Whew!!

But I needed to come back, to where we can be renewed by bro's and sis's, who want to build up, and not drag down. Hope i said that right!

God bless you. R.D.

 

[irenemcg]

I love reading Smith Wigglesworth books, they are faitrly simple. He had faith in God and took Him at His Word.