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In charismatic circles, it is when a move of the Spirit of God overtakes you to the point that you fall prostrate (usually backward, hopefully with ushers catching) and are under the power of the Spirit for a time. Why charismatic circles and not, say, Methodist? Perhaps because charismatics are more open to such moves of the Spirit; for the Holy Spirit is a "gentleman" and will not violate your will.I was wondering if I could get a take on being slain in the spirit. I never really understood this and have been very weary of it. I don't believe that it talks about it in the scriptures. So for the people who do believe in it, what is the benefit of it?? How do you know that it is God doing it and not you being hypnotized or the power of suggestion? What does it feel like??
This is my PERSONAL take. I haven't really followed Bentley nor his "ministry." PERSONALLY, I get weary of healing ministries that use a lot of physical antics, almost to the appearance of violence. I simply can't imagine Jesus in the Gospels acting with the appearance of "violence" during healing.What is your take on Todd Bentley and the whole lakeland florida outpouring?? If you haven't seen or heard about Todd Bently I would encourage you to youtube him. Some of the stuff he does is a little disturbing, I don't want to sound like all religious or blaspheme the Holy Spirit, but why would the Holy Spirit tell someone to bang a cripplied lady's legs up and down or to kick someone in the stomach??
I simply can't imagine Jesus in the Gospels acting with the appearance of "violence" during healing.
Yeah but Jesus was casting demons out of people, not healing them.
Did Jesus or the disciples ever kick someone in the face or the stomach?? Did he ever ask them for money or tell them the more money you give the more likely I will heal you??
Whether puposefully or inadvertently you have tied the Word of Faith movement to "healing crusades" and to "saying the more money you give the more faith God will think you have."I was raised in the word of faith movement ... many "healing crusades" ... all of them basically did the same thing. 2 or 3 hours of emotional music, a love offering saying the more money you give the more faith God will think you have and he will heal you.
Revival is the act of renewing or reviving.I thought revival was people repenting and coming to Christ??
Yes Todd Bentley tells stories about it all the time. He says things like the Holy Spirit told me to leg drop the pastor, kick a lady in the face with my biker boot, all kinds of stuff like that. Look it up on youtube it is all there. And he does this thing where he prays for God to make everyone drunk in the spirit. I was raised in the word of faith movement, and my mom went to many "healing crusades" (she had breast cancer) all of them basically did the same thing. 2 or 3 hours of emotional music, a love offering saying the more money you give the more faith God will think you have and he will heal you. Then they have their helpers go out and find people who were "healed" and bring them up on stage. My mother and I were at a Benny Hinn crusade and one of the staff members say her get out of her wheelchair ( she could walk just fine, she just would get tired and weak from walking long periods of time) he immedietly took us up on stage without even asking my Mom hardly anything about her condition and announced to everyone that she was healed!! Is that was Jesus would do??
I thought revival was people repenting and coming to Christ??
In today's society, if he kicked a lady in the face with his boot...he's going to be answering a lawsuit, so that may just be a tall tail told for theatrics which wouldn't be right (kickin or tellin the story
The Bible does teach laying hands on the sick...but many people that are Christians that follow these wild guys don't have much of a relationship with God in the first place and are looking for a quick fix.
Nothing wrong with having a good time in the Lord praying for each other and shoutin, dancin, and singin to loud praise-n-woship music. God loves it when a body of believers come together to seek His presence in one accord. God is moving greatly in these situations...
On the other hand, some preachers will get so far out there that they get off the pages of the Bible and nobody knows what they are doing. It doesn't necessarily mean the preacher is of the devil...it usually means the guy wants to "help God out a little", which will cause the Holy Ghost to withdraw since He knows how to run things and requires that we be willing to be led by Him as opposed to "helpin God out" with theatrics.
It's quite possible that your Mom was chasing the men, chasing the ministries...instead of entering in to God's rest and seeking Him for her specific situation. I know I ain't runnin around the country side lookin for someone to lay hands on me...cause I got the Holy Ghost right here with me and His WISDOM is what is needed to learn what is needed to get healed (in my case, stay healed as I've not been sick on over 20 years).
Nothing wrong with long sessions of praise and worship as God inhabits the praises of His people and most folks really need to soak in God's presence for long periods of time to rest in Him. We should be doing that frequently, if not daily, on our own in our personal prayer time.
Unfortunately, many Christians spend the majority of their time soaking in the entertainment / information of this world which is embedded with satanic thought and vision that will choke God's Word out of people's heart so they are not fruitful and end up oppressed by devils.
So, how's your Mom now? Did she recover or go on home?
Is it...but there's WAY more to living in victory than simply repenting and becoming a Christian, or repenting and re-dedicating one's life to Jesus if having fallen away.
God is actually doing what appears to be far out stuff because many that are coming to the Lord have devils...when devils get kicked out, they don't go quietly and will make a scene so there's no reason to be concerned about that.
I recommend that you're focus be on what God is telling you to do in your life and on you growing up in the Lord yourself and not worry so much about what others are doing whether it be right or wrong
Whether puposefully or inadvertently you have tied the Word of Faith movement to "healing crusades" and to "saying the more money you give the more faith God will think you have."
Word of Faith does not preach that the more you give the more faith you have. There may be some extreme preachers that use money as a tool in such a way, but to tie that to the Word of Faith movement is disingenuous.
This is a Word of Faith forum for WoF believers to fellowship and learn together. You carry a non-denominational icon, and as such you are free to fellowship or ask questions. Teaching or defaming our belief system is not allowed. You may have had bad experiences with other "healing ministries", but not all "healing ministries" are WoF; so I caution you to be careful not to disparage or defame Word of Faith. It is not allowed on CF, and we do not allow it in this forum.
If I'm reading too much into this, then accept my apology for being so firm. We have many who try to slide in here to preach against our beliefs. I'm simply being cautious.
I'll go with scripture on this one:I've never actually witnessed Todd minister, but I do know that one who worked with him, Rick Joyner is one of the most anointed prophets around. His book "The Call" is VERY anointed. Obviously the enemy derailed the revival. I'd be very careful about what anyone says about it. Choose your words very carefully. You're better off not saying anything at all, than saying the wrong thing and bringing some judgment into your life.
We're to judge everything (or weigh it in the spirit). Someone invariably jumps forward and utters something unadvisedly and it's almost like opening the mouth of a lion who'll let you put your head in for a moment.
During an annointed revival, he couldn't even keep his pants on.
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