Sins of the prophet Muhammad

Bismillah:

I thought he was supposed to be illiterate.

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yes he was illiterate. and there's a very simple evidence which can proof that prophet Muhammad did not write a single word of the Qur'an.

you guys (im refering to Christians in general) always calling us "Anti-Christ" and you also called Muhammad a fales prophet. but if we read the Qur'an we find that prophet Muhammad "if he was the author" mentioned by name only 5 times. and Jesus was mentioned 25 times.Amazing. Jesus was mentioned 500% more times than Muhammad., logically if Muhammad was the author he would better promote himself.

Another fact, there is a whole Chapter in the Holy Qur'an named as MARY. who is Mary ? the mother of Muhammad ? his daughter ? NOOO its The blessed Mary the mother of Jesus. this chapter is number 19 if you wanna have a look. whole chapter was written in the honor of Mary the other of Jesus. but subhanAllah you will never even find a single name mentioned of t Muhammad's mother, father, daughter , wives and family NOTHING AT ALL. many people non Muslims asked me for copy of the Qur'an and the first thing they want to read is about the birth of Muhammad. WHICH IS KNOWN TO ALL MUSLIMS. but it is not mentioned in the Qur'an at all. but the birth of Jesus Christ was mentioned 2 times in different places.

its Amazing book you cannot attribute it to Muhammad at all or else it would be a silly thing.

well im sorry i think i went off topic a little bit.

peace
ammuslim

Bismillah:

Green Man:

may i ask you something ?

"What is the definition of God?" For a you to say there is no God, you should at least know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for you as an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, you should at least know the concept of God.

according to your answer i will Proceed Insha'Allah.

peace
ammuslim

Bookofknowledge said:

Allah is Great,

Today I understood why non-believers often referred as "They take what desire them and reject the rest"

This life is a Test, mankind does not have the ability to see The Creator on earth.

Allah's powers are not in the hands of Mushrikin, that they can assign them to whomever they want

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Your Rabb creates whatever He wills and chooses for His work whom He pleases. It is not for them (mushrikin) to choose and assign the powers of Allah to whom they want. Glory be to Allah! He is far above the shirk that these people commit.

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Your Rabb knows all that they conceal in their hearts and all that they reveal.

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He is Allah; there is no god but Him. Praise belongs to Him in this world and in the hereafter: His is the Judgement and to Him you all shall be brought back.

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O Prophet, ask them: "Have you ever considered that if Allah were to make the night perpetual till the Day of Resurrection, which deity other than Allah could bring you light?" Will you not listen?

28:72
Ask them again: "Have you ever considered that if Allah were to make the day perpetual till the Day of Resurrection, which deity other than Allah could bring you the night in which you could rest? Will you not see?

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It is out of His mercy that He has made for you the night that you may rest in it, and the day that you may seek His bounty, so that you may render thanks.

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They should be mindful of that Day when He will call them and ask: "Where are those deities whom you deemed My associates?"

28:75
And We shall bring forth a witness from every nation and ask: "Bring your proof about other deities besides Me." Then they shall come to know that in reality there is only One God, Allah, and gods of their own inventions have left them in the lurch."

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Not to criticize but why is it that when somebody asks a simple yes or no question Muslims seem too quote a bunch of scriptures without answering the question? I'm not saying Christians don't do it sometimes too but green man was asking a simple yes or no question and you quote a bunch of scripture instead of answering his question. If he is an atheist he's not going to believe it anyway.

markie4u2001 said:

I thought he was supposed to be illiterate.

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My mistake, I mean "revealed" not "written".

Green Man said:

There is nothing to accept.

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How do you think we got here, do you think we always existed, what do you think started it all?

I'd like to know if Green Man has actually read the Quran from start to finish.

Bismillah:

Not to criticize but why is it that when somebody asks a simple yes or no question Muslims seem too quote a bunch of scriptures without answering the question? I'm not saying Christians don't do it sometimes too but green man was asking a simple yes or no question and you quote a bunch of scripture instead of answering his question. If he is an atheist he's not going to believe it anyway.

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Sometimes you need to be very informative in answering such a questions. because normally these YES OR NO questions are used by the questioner only in order to satisfy his needs. so we have to make sure that there is no misunderstanding involve by quoting some Qur'anic verses.

so do not dispair for the Mercy of God. he might believe one day. WHO KNOWS

peace
ammuslim

ammuslim said:

Bismillah:



Sometimes you need to be very informative in answering such a questions. because normally these YES OR NO questions are used by the questioner only in order to satisfy his needs. so we have to make sure that there is no misunderstanding involve by quoting some Qur'anic verses.

so do not dispair for the Mercy of God. he might believe one day. WHO KNOWS

peace
ammuslim

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Your quotes do not give a meaningful answer in most cases. It only makes matters worse by adding even more questions. Also, keep in mind that you may be too presumptuous in trying to think ahead and believe that the other person has any other motive than needing a yes or no answer. It someone uses your answer against you, then you certainly have the freedom to answer back, do not you?

Bismillah:

Your quotes do not give a meaningful answer in most cases. It only makes matters worse by adding even more questions. Also, keep in mind that you may be too presumptuous in trying to think ahead and believe that the other person has any other motive than needing a yes or no answer. It someone uses your answer against you, then you certainly have the freedom to answer back, do not you?

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i think now you are making things complicated not me.

firstly i was answering markie4u2001 not you. secondly that was my opinion in dealing with an athiest according to my experience. sometimes really you cannot answer directly by using YES or NO.

like for example if i ask you as a christian , Jesus was not God but he was the son of God. YES OR NO. answer me using YES or NO. even if you used NO you need to explain in more details that he was both "according to your beliefs" so you cannot just simply answer by YES or NO.

well. this is my opinion anyway.

peace
ammuslim

ammuslim said:

Bismillah:

Green Man:

may i ask you something ?

"What is the definition of God?" For a you to say there is no God, you should at least know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ?this is a pen?, for the opposite person to say, ?it is not a pen?, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for you as an atheist to say ?there is no God?, you should at least know the concept of God.

according to your answer i will Proceed Insha'Allah.

peace
ammuslim

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I am very familiar with the concept of God.A lack of belief is not indicative of a lack of understanding.And I find your insinuations highly insulting.

markie4u2001 said:

Not to criticize but why is it that when somebody asks a simple yes or no question Muslims seem too quote a bunch of scriptures without answering the question? I'm not saying Christians don't do it sometimes too but green man was asking a simple yes or no question and you quote a bunch of scripture instead of answering his question. If he is an atheist he's not going to believe it anyway.

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If they answer yes,they would have to rethink their position on the trinity.If they answer no,then Allah is not all powerful.Quoting scripture seems to be an evasive tactic.

markie4u2001 said:

How do you think we got here, do you think we always existed, what do you think started it all?

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I wasn't here when\if everything started.I won't be here when\if everything ends.The whole matter is irrelevant.

ammuslim said:

Bismillah:



Sometimes you need to be very informative in answering such a questions. because normally these YES OR NO questions are used by the questioner only in order to satisfy his needs. so we have to make sure that there is no misunderstanding involve by quoting some Qur'anic verses.

so do not dispair for the Mercy of God. he might believe one day. WHO KNOWS

peace
ammuslim

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And sometimes a simple yes or no will suffice without adding the Qur'an .Might believe one day?not gonna happen.

Green Man said:

1.Yes there is life and death.

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10:56
He is the One Who gives life and causes death, and to Him you shall all return.

wow, so there is some thing to accept atleast in terms of life and death -- right?

Green Man said:

2.The universe is not created.The big bang theory is only that,a theory.And it does not prove anything.

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http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video_detail.php?api_id=1251

Green Man said:

3.A barrier between two seas...no

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http://goodislam.com/Seas_Rivers.html

Green Man said:

4.That's just plain silly.

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http://eulogium.4t.com/belief.html

"Blessed is the One Who has placed constellations in the sky and set a beacon in it, plus a shining moon! He is the One Who has granted night and daytime in succession…" (25:61-62). This implies that certain star formations weren't just coincidental, but perhaps as some type of guide that humans could use. I believe there are at least 88 constellations currently recognized by the International Astronomical Union. Also worth noting is that it says "shining moon," which sort of implies that the moon reflects light, rather than creates its own light. The sun is referred to as a "blazing lamp" (78:13). Further proof that the sun is the actual source of light: "He has set the moon as a light among them, and set the sun up as a source of light" (71:16). The Qur'an also mentions how God "…placed the sky as a roof" (21:32), which is apparently referring to the atmosphere.

It also says, "He wraps night up into daytime and wraps daytime up in night, and regulates the sun and moon; each runs along on a stated course. Such is God, your Lord! Control belongs to Him; while the ones whom you appeal to instead of Him do not control a wisp" (35:13). This tells us that the world isn't stationary. When it says God "wraps up," that makes sense with the spinning of the earth. I'm not very knowledgeable on the Solar System, but I believe the sun spins on its own axis, the planets also spin on their own axes, and then the planets rotate around the sun while each planet maintains a certain distance from the sun.

More on the sun and moon, "The sun dare not overtake the moon nor does night outpace the day. Each floats along in its own orbit" (36:40). People back then probably didn't understand much about orbits and such. As for shadows, "Have you not seen how your Lord lengthens shadows? If He so wished, He would make them stand still" (25:45). This may seem insignificant, but perhaps in the old days shadows could be used to tell time, like by using a sundial. The verse goes on to say that God "…placed the sun as an indicator for them," which seems to confirm my little theory.

Green Man said:

5.stages of birth?of course

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http://eulogium.4t.com/belief.html

Perhaps the most astounding scientific item in the Qur'an is the explanation of how God creates human life. "He has created you (all) from a single soul; then made its mate from it…He creates you in your mothers' wombs, one creation following upon another creation in three [stages of] darkness. Such is God, your Lord. Control belongs to Him; there is no god except for Him. Yet you disregard [Him]!" (39:6). That "single soul" is probably referring to Adam, and Eve is probably the mate made from Adam. The "three stages" are probably the trimesters (I believe about 13 weeks each) of the pregnancy. As for what goes on inside the womb, the Qur'an says that God "created man from an extract of clay," then "placed him as a drop of sperm in a secure resting-place" (i.e. womb), then "turned the sperm into a clot," then "the clot into tissue," then "the tissue into bones," and finally "clothed the bones with flesh" (23:11-13). And another passage: "He started out by creating man from clay; then He made his progeny from an extract of discarded liquid; next He completed him and breathed some of His own spirit into him. He has granted you hearing, eyesight and vital organs…" (32:7-9).

Green Man said:

6.There is no creator to acknowledge.

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Don’t you think perfection in what we see and exists in universe make it impossible to not believe in the creator?

The Qur'aan was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) 1400 years ago and today we are using latest technology doesn't this amaze the knowledge which was revealed to a person in a arabia.

Don?t you think perfection in what we see and exists in universe make it impossible to not believe in the creator?

The Qur'aan was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) 1400 years ago and today we are using latest technology doesn't this amaze the knowledge which was revealed to a person in a arabia.

There is no creator to believe in.Nothing was "revealed" to Muhhamad.It amazes me how muslims can take the Qur'an and tie it into whatever their little hearts desire,while at the same time blasting anything they see as nonmuslim.Just because the Qur'an says so.Well buddy,that's not good enough.

Green Man said:

There is no creator to believe in.Nothing was "revealed" to Muhhamad.It amazes me how muslims can take the Qur'an and tie it into whatever their little hearts desire,while at the same time blasting anything they see as nonmuslim.Just because the Qur'an says so.Well buddy,that's not good enough.

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Is it mocking or are you simply struggling to analyze the information I have provided?

You said earlier there is nothing to accept, my intention was to make you agree that there are things which you accept but simply rejecting to acknowledge.

Islamic rules are very clear. A wealth of a Muslim is Qur’aan and teachings of Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Allah ask believer “take what I have given you and be thankful”

As a Muslim we know few things for a fact to believe and there are few things which are unknown to us even in today’s technology era. This is what makes this life a test. We Muslims hear and obey, the person who have researched on the theory of sea barrier was not a Muslim but they became Muslims because of the fact that this Information is not possible to be viewed by naked eye and today’s technology was not present 1400 years ago.

Bookofknowledge said:

Is it mocking or are you simply struggling to analyze the information I have provided?

You said earlier there is nothing to accept, my intention was to make you agree that there are things which you accept but simply rejecting to acknowledge.

Islamic rules are very clear. A wealth of a Muslim is Qur?aan and teachings of Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Allah ask believer ?take what I have given you and be thankful?

As a Muslim we know few things for a fact to believe and there are few things which are unknown to us even in today?s technology era. This is what makes this life a test. We Muslims hear and obey, the person who have researched on the theory of sea barrier was not a Muslim but they became Muslims because of the fact that this Information is not possible to be viewed by naked eye and today?s technology was not present 1400 years ago.

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I am not mocking nor am I struggling to analyze anything.You wanted my personal views,well now you've got'em.There is no creator to accept.The Qur'an and the Bible are only old books,nothing more.I long for the day when people will realize that religion has been the single most sucessful hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.BTW,just because I don't believe a word of what your're saying doesn't mean I don't understand what you're saying.

ammuslim said:

Bismillah:



Sometimes you need to be very informative in answering such a questions. because normally these YES OR NO questions are used by the questioner only in order to satisfy his needs. so we have to make sure that there is no misunderstanding involve by quoting some Qur'anic verses.

so do not dispair for the Mercy of God. he might believe one day. WHO KNOWS

peace
ammuslim

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He might not too. When somebody asks a yes or no question I would think that quoting scripture to an atheist would be more likely to turn him away from wheat you are trying to tell hi, but maybe that''s just me. Somebody might but I wouldn't count on it, only God knows. Isn't Allah going to save who he wants to save and condemn everybody else to hell? That sounds similar to Romans 8:29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son. It's not like we don't have freedom of will but God knew we would believe before we were born. I think most Christians think we do but some don't. Do Muslim's believe in freedom of will?

markie4u2001 said:

He might not too. When somebody asks a yes or no question I would think that quoting scripture to an atheist would be more likely to turn him away from wheat you are trying to tell hi, but maybe that''s just me. Somebody might but I wouldn't count on it, only God knows. Isn't Allah going to save who he wants to save and condemn everybody else to hell? That sounds similar to Romans 8:29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son. It's not like we don't have freedom of will but God knew we would believe before we were born. I think most Christians think we do but some don't. Do Muslim's believe in freedom of will?

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I think that's what he's attempting to do.Evasion,quoting the Qur'an,and asking ridiculous questions are merely an attempt to wear me down to the point where I just give up on the whole line of questioning.

Green Man said:

I am not mocking nor am I struggling to analyze anything.You wanted my personal views,well now you've got'em.There is no creator to accept.The Qur'an and the Bible are only old books,nothing more.I long for the day when people will realize that religion has been the single most sucessful hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.BTW,just because I don't believe a word of what your're saying doesn't mean I don't understand what you're saying.

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1400 years ago a man from Arabia claimed he has been sent as a messenger (prophet) not a king…

Now you tell me how it is possible for a person to come across such knowledge during that time – we the most educated civilization or they achieved long ago what we are trying to understand with today’s technology.

What was the source of what they achieved 1400 years ago? Why are we claiming to be super power when in fact we are nothing when compared to a ordinary man claimed there is a barrier in-between two seas… research about this man whose name is Muhammad who is the one Muslims claim was not an educated man yet people of Mecca (Pagans, Jews, Christians) called him the trustworthy.



To me he is a man raised in level, a Prophet, Prophet Muhammad (SAW).