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Heavenly Father, I pray for understanding of Your Word, and Your way, our role in teaching others, and how we should speak when speaking of Your precious Word. I thank you for guiding and teaching us. May Your Word be living in us and easily seen to others. All things to Your Glory. In Jesus' Name I Pray, Amen.

@dms1972 - I know you weren't speaking to me, but in another thread you said:

I suppose you're well meaning but what you just said above is a stunningly truncated, if not lazy explanation of God's Gospel of Grace and Truth, and such an explanation can only leave people with at best half the truth

and it led me to wonder a few things, because while I love the in-depth scriptural analysis, I love the simplicity of bringing that new knowledge to a daily action.

As you said, someone can write an entire BOOK discussing just a couple verses. And the entire Bible is like that in my view. But there are times we just want to simplify and get to the living action of a verse, especially when speaking to others.

I often talk about dictates in scripture or lessons thereof without quoting all the scripture I'm thinking of because often I believe bringing in too much scripture and subsequent discussion of its meaning within a potential application might bring the topic away from the original point, or make someone's head spin and end up confusing them thus bringing the topic away from the topic.

take this post for instance:

Just as a prophetic dream of Pharaoh needed to be interpreted by Joseph, so did prophecy need to be interpreted by Jesus for the Jews. It's never as it seems, prophecy is not a book to be read - its understanding comes from God and God alone.

Here just in this one paragraph alone I could have quoted many scriptures and went into a heavily detailed teaching of how we can come to this conclusion through multiple passages - even 2 Peter 1:20 - however, by the time I would have finished the teaching my point easily said in a concise manner would be utterly lost in my POV.

Now, if I felt myself a Pastor to teach, I might feel differently, and perhaps publicly on a forum that is how we must feel, as a teacher.. but the abject terror of being the one to lead someone astray by mispeaking or being misunderstood can make a person have fear of speaking when/if they feel themselves a teacher to teach.

I find the way Jesus explained scripture to be beautiful and quite simple for people to understand, it's scripture fully action that we need most.

So where is the fine line? Where is the balance between too simple, and just simple enough to be understood?

How should we see ourselves when speaking of the things of God to others? How does God require of us to speak?
 
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To your last question, 1 Peter 3:15 has the answer:

Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect

You need not go much further than that.
 
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To your last question, 1 Peter 3:15 has the answer:

Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect

You need not go much further than that.

So, just a gentle answer to the topic without necessarily going beyond... that's good...

Very good. Thank you and God bless you..
 
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The fine line comes in our discerning, with the help of God's Spirit and within Christ's collective Church, the difference between a "Satanic Hermeneutic" and a "Christ Hermeneutic."
 
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The fine line comes in our discerning, with the help of God's Spirit and within Christ's collective Church, the difference between a "Satanic Hermeneutic" and a "Christ Hermeneutic."

Thank you. that's definitely good food for thought..
 
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the way Jesus explained scripture to be beautiful and quite simple for people to understand, it's scripture fully action that we need most.

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Amen !
 
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[I have revised my words a little below]

I think you likely know if you followed the original thread there is an issue of context to what I said. Some of these forums are for discussion of theology, that particular discussion was in fact in the Controversial Theology forum. Issues there can require careful consideration and reply, plus no-one who prefers things simple needs to enter into those discussions, or read them.


As that particular discussion had progressed other views which have been common within Protestant theology had been called anti-Christian, possibly because they are misunderstood.

I think if one enters such a discussion then says in effect 'oh you are just over-complicating it' to others discussing key Biblical words such as sanctification which people want to understand better then that forum is not for them if they think discussing these words is complicating things.

The fact remains God's Word is inspired and if both Jesus and St Paul used concepts such as Justification and Sanctification then they are inspired too and we seek to understand them using the Bible as much as possible, to show how scripture interprets scripture. As we need to know what Jesus and Paul meant.

But it would have only taken a sentence or two to expound the Gospel, Paul and Peter didn't preach massive sermons full of reams of theology (though he did continue to discuss with those asked to hear him say more on it), but they did give an overview of the Bible plot line, when until people asked what they should do. Then he began with 'Repent...' but he didn't end there.

But that discussion was not about how to become a christian it was about Sanctification, so telling people all they need is "Repent and it will go well" - Why will it go well one could ask, is it because God forgives you because you were a good chap and repented, not at all according to Paul, God only forgives us because of faith in Christ's Righteousness.

These thing need discussed even if they do sometimes produce arguments and disagreements.

Of course we should as far as possible be charitable in disagreement.
 
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That makes sense..
 
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