Silence in Heaven

keras said:

What you express all of the time; is your own opinions and beliefs.

Like many people, the idea that you personally will have to face dramatic events and difficult situations is abhorrent, so rejection of the God given warnings is necessary.
This is most unfortunate, especially for a Bible believer to be in the dark about Gods plans for the future of His people.

So; do you NOT think Iran will try to nuke Israel?

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Lol. What I do not think is that you have much understanding of Biblical prophecy.

Zao is life said:

Lol. What I do not think is that you have much understanding of Biblical prophecy.

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You didn't answer my question; Will Iran try to destroy Israel? [the Jewish State of Israel]

As for who understands the Prophetic Word, time will tell and those who got it wrong will be very embarrased.

keras said:

As for who understands the Prophetic Word, time will tell and those who got it wrong will be very embarrased.

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.. which includes you. Imagine a crowd of thousands of people all pointing a finger at you.

Those people represent your mountains of opinions.

There are only one or two people in-between who represent facts.

You don't even believe God has made a new covenant with anyone in the blood of Christ, claiming the New Covenant "has not been given yet". You fail first grade, and then believe you understand the prophetic Word.

PS: Iran is already trying to destroy Israel. It's an ongoing thing. Wake up and smell the coffee.

You have a whole lot of Old Testament prophecy already historically fulfilled and never to be repeated, misapplied to our day. You fail to see which historical events that were prophesied before they were fulfilled are types of what's still to come, and which are not.

You have no idea which Old testament prophecies have never been fulfilled, and you have all the historical details of already fulfilled prophecy cut 'n pasted into the 21st century, failing to understand the difference between type and antitype.

Doesn't work, Keras.

God bless.

Zao is life said:

which includes you. Imagine a crowd of thousands of people all pointing a finger at you.

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Maybe because I got it right!
I say it again: The Bible Prophets tell the truth. I merely repeat their Words.

Zao is life said:

Iran is already trying to destroy Israel. It's an ongoing thing.

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Yes, but using proxies. Their ace card is their nukes and the means to send them to Israel and possibly; America.
Your 'historically fulfilled' rubbish just doesn't cut it with the scenario that anyone can see is highly probable in the Middle East.

But we bible believers know there won't be a nuke exchange, because the Lord will arise and destroy them all. Ezekiel 7:14, Zephaniah 1:14-18
A rather good solution, I reckon!

keras said:

This belief is wrong and shown to be wrong by the fact that the seals of a scroll must be removed before its contents cab happen.

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Nonsense. The contents of any scroll has been written long before the scroll is sealed with seals.

Only when all the seals have been loosened can it be seen what was written on the scroll, which is why what had already been written on the scroll only began to be seen once the scroll unraveled when the 7th seal was loosened.

Elementary school stuff.

You have the seals as the events written about in the scroll instead of symbols helping us to understand what the events that are written in the scroll are about.

You have the cart before the horse because you think the cart is the horse and the horse is the cart.

keras said:

Maybe because I got it right!
I say it again: The Bible Prophets tell the truth. I merely repeat their Words.

Yes, but using proxies. Their ace card is their nukes and the means to send them to Israel and possibly; America.
Your 'historically fulfilled' rubbish just doesn't cut it with the scenario that anyone can see is highly probable in the Middle East.

But we bible believers know there won't be a nuke exchange, because the Lord will arise and destroy them all. Ezekiel 7:14, Zephaniah 1:14-18
A rather good solution, I reckon!

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Lol. Iran is not Babylon. The Jeremiah 50 you quote as though Iran is going to fulfill it.

Zao is life said:

Lol. Iran is not Babylon. The Jeremiah 50 you quote as though Iran is going to fulfill it.

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I never said Iran was Babylon, Iran is Elam. Media or Persia in Bible prophecy. Babylon is the decadent and godless peoples of the world.

I quote Jeremiah 49:35-37, the Prophecy which describes the attempt by Iran to nuke Israel and what the Lord will do about it.

Zao is life said:

Only when all the seals have been loosened can it be seen what was written on the scroll, which is why what had already been written on the scroll only began to be seen once the scroll unraveled when the 7th seal was loosened.

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Your confusion and error about this is apparent, as the contents of the Scroll are known to us, in Revelation 6.
The things described do happen as Jesus removes each Seal and it is obvious that the first Five Seals were opened when Jesus Ascended. Rev 5 to 6:1-11
The Sixth Seal is ready to be opened the moment when this attempt is made by Iran to wipe Israel off the map.

keras said:

I never said Iran was Babylon, Iran is Elam. Media or Persia in Bible prophecy. Babylon is the decadent and godless peoples of the world.

I quote Jeremiah 49:35-37, the Prophecy which describes the attempt by Iran to nuke Israel and what the Lord will do about it.

Your confusion and error about this is apparent, as the contents of the Scroll are known to us, in Revelation 6.
The things described do happen as Jesus removes each Seal and it is obvious that the first Five Seals were opened when Jesus Ascended. Rev 5 to 6:1-11
The Sixth Seal is ready to be opened the moment when this attempt is made by Iran to wipe Israel off the map.

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Quizz:

1. Who said, "Jesus came to save sinners, of which I am chief."?
2. Who said, "For this is the will of God: Your sanctification"?
3. Who said, "Woe to those desiring the day of the LORD! What is this for you? The day of the LORD is darkness and not light!" ?

4. Which of the above is most important to God?

Zao is life said:

Quizz:

1. Who said, "Jesus came to save sinners, of which I am chief."?
2. Who said, "For this is the will of God: Your sanctification"?
3. Who said, "Woe to those desiring the day of the LORD! What is this for you? The day of the LORD is darkness and not light!" ?

4. Which of the above is most important to God?

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Our Salvation is paramount.
But if you think the prophesies are insignificant, you are wrong.

BeeFive said:

The silence in Heaven is telling us that the 6th trumpet(a WOE trumpet) lasts 2.5 months here on earth.(In answer to the saints from the 5th seal under the altar asking HOW LONG?..
Basically asking How long is the 6th trumpet since they know that Jesus returns at the 7th trumpet... so basically, how long is the 6th trumpet.

The answer is given in Rev 8:1.. about the space of 1/2 hour (the 6th trumpet WOE lasts for 1/2 hour or 2.5 months)

The 7 years of Dan 9:27 have been shortened to 5 months "lest no flesh would be saved".... Matthew tells us the time is shortened and Rev 9 tells us to 5 months.

The WOE part of the 5th trumpet is 2.5 months,(which is when satan is cast to earth in Rev 12) and the WOE of the 6th trumpet is 2.5 months which equals the 5 months (which were split into two 2.5 month sections.)..

Know and understand the 3 WOE trumpets ( 5th ,6th and 7.

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How is it that any of us before the event actually happens can know exactly how long it will take till all is finished.. but they don't know? They in heaven where they can get the true answer from God directly.. they have to ask?.. Could that possibly mean that there are those (as posted here) who don't know even though they are very sure that they do know?

Or is it that they (in heaven) are exercising humble courtesy to ask God even if they think that they do know but hedging in case they might be wrong and who wants to be embarrassed in front of God Almighty?

The shortening lest no flesh would be saved.. refers to the antichrist only having 3.5 years to reek havoc on the earth. That's 3.5 out of the 7 year Tribulation. He knows that his time is short. He knows that he gets 3.5 years and he's going to use all of it.

Rev 12 states that satan and his hordes of demons are cast to the earth after the war in heaven due to a mid-trib rapture of saints escorted by angels. It well could be the time of satan's fall that Jesus saw by vision and spoke of in the gospels. That fall means that satan is no longer the prince of the power of the air. That fall means that he's defeated and cast out from his air castle kingdom from which to rule over people on the earth.

When satan fell is when he entered into the son of perdition who'd been mortally wounded. By satan's possession the son of perdition become the antichrist rose from the dead. Declaring himself to be resurrected from the dead. As if he had of his own power raised himself from the dead.. he claimed it as if no one else had ever been raised from the dead before.

He immediately went to the tribulation temple and sat in the mercy seat and declared it to be his throne, declaring himself to be God. That is the abomination of desolation that causes all of the Jews- the woman- to flee to the wilderness for safety. There they stay for 3.5 years. That time is the Great Tribulation. aka The Time Jacob's Trouble. The ancestral reference to Jacob covers all of the 12 tribes of Israel. Minus the 144,000 Jews who'd been raptured out causing the war in heaven.

Those martyred arriving in heaven asked How long till God avenges the martyrs? How long is the shedding of blood not allowed to cry out for vengeance? How long is God going to hold back his judgement and wrath upon those who martyred the saints? See Rev.16 The bowls of wrath -- vs:5 for the answer.

The silence in heaven is the silence before the wrath of God poured out. They are silent because they'd been praying for an unknown amount of time but it's evidenced by the sensor of incense that always held the prayers of the saints, that was taken by an angel and thrown down to the earth.

Someone said that there was silence for one hour - the equivalence of three years. That fits the last remaining 3 years of the Great Tribulation. To account for the 1/2 is 6 months ending on the first three plus the first 1/2 or 6 months on the beginning of the second three. That totals 7 years.