Can anyone give me a definition on what these are, or a good article?
I have heard of them quite frequently, don't know exactly what they are...
I have heard of them quite frequently, don't know exactly what they are...
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Signal Graces
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When I asked it seems that they are essentially actual graces, graces to help us in whatever situation or need we might have. Someone else might have a better definition.
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Benedicta00
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a single grace is a grace God gives one time never to be give again or repeated to accomplish something God wants. Like the IC. This was made possible by God giving Mary a singular grace, a grace that will never again be repeated.
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Benedicta00
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I wasn't aware there was a diffence... sorry... maybe someone will answer your question.
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PassthePeace1
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Most of the sites I found, was pretty much saying the same things as posted above...did find one that also mentioned that many saints recieved signal graces...and they gave examples such as ecstasy, loucations etc etc..
Peace be with you..Pam
Peace be with you..Pam
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The way that I understand it, a signal grace can be alot of things. IT could be a gift of the Spirit that leads you to be with a certain group of people because God wants you there. Sort of like God saying I want you to be a franciscan. In such a case the signal grace(s) happen when something reminds you of the franciscan's. If a peson decides to do something, that God wants a person to do He will give them graces. Like an affirmation that a person is doing God's will. A signal grace can be some sort of mystical grace that may also be physically felt.
For example sudden smell of roses. Parts of the body suddenly getting warn. It could be a desire a be with God some way. It could be a sudden desire to be with God. A signal grace could be a gift of the Spirit. Such speaking in tongues and/or healing. It may be a beatific vision, a visitation, ect.. so on and so forth.
It is a excellent question. I'm curious if there some type of defitionn of something that defines it. I could ask my DRE, but that wouldn't be till thursday night.
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For example sudden smell of roses. Parts of the body suddenly getting warn. It could be a desire a be with God some way. It could be a sudden desire to be with God. A signal grace could be a gift of the Spirit. Such speaking in tongues and/or healing. It may be a beatific vision, a visitation, ect.. so on and so forth.
It is a excellent question. I'm curious if there some type of defitionn of something that defines it. I could ask my DRE, but that wouldn't be till thursday night.
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Lionroar,
Not to criticize your comment, which was very good, but,
Please watch your vocabulary. The beatific vision, properly speaking, is only seen beyond this life in heaven. The Fathers of the Church speculated that St. Paul and Moses witnessed briefly the beatific vision, but these were the only two to do such a thing....a very rare, extraordinary exception.
Anything similar in appearance could be an intellectual vision, or an ecstasy; but they are not "[beatific] vision", as Teresa de Jesus would say. The closest one can get to God on this side of heaven is the Transforming Union that St. John of the Cross mentions, corresponding with the Seventh Mansion of St. Teresa's Interior Castle.
PassthePeace,
Again, you come to my aid.
It was in passages like those Rosary promises you posted that I saw the phrase "signal graces"...I have to say I think that, based on implicit meanings, signal graces have to do with God's special hand directing you in his will, whether by circumstance and relations, or something supernatural, like dreams or whatnot.
Thank you for the little definition that that site gave.
Any one else have any thoughts?
Not to criticize your comment, which was very good, but,
Please watch your vocabulary. The beatific vision, properly speaking, is only seen beyond this life in heaven. The Fathers of the Church speculated that St. Paul and Moses witnessed briefly the beatific vision, but these were the only two to do such a thing....a very rare, extraordinary exception.
Anything similar in appearance could be an intellectual vision, or an ecstasy; but they are not "[beatific] vision", as Teresa de Jesus would say. The closest one can get to God on this side of heaven is the Transforming Union that St. John of the Cross mentions, corresponding with the Seventh Mansion of St. Teresa's Interior Castle.
PassthePeace,
Again, you come to my aid.
It was in passages like those Rosary promises you posted that I saw the phrase "signal graces"...I have to say I think that, based on implicit meanings, signal graces have to do with God's special hand directing you in his will, whether by circumstance and relations, or something supernatural, like dreams or whatnot.
Thank you for the little definition that that site gave.
Any one else have any thoughts?
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Irenaeus said:
This sounds similar to a certain Jewish theology I heard a while back. Something to do with 7 gates or something like that. I'll have to see if I can find it. Believe it was some commentary by one of the Rabbis at http://www.torah.org. Just can't remember which one.
Pax Tecum,
John
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Ok, now that I have taken a little time, it may not have been the gates necessarily, but check out the following:
http://www.torah.org/learning/spiritual-excellence/archives.html
Gate seven in this series is on teshuvah, which is understood in Judaism as the ability to repent of sins; to turn to God once again after having turned away from Him; and to set things gone wrong aright. In other words, what we would know as repentance, conversion, and attonement. The Introduction to Gate 7 should give a good overview. Anyways, that is what I can say in comment for now.
Pax Voviscum,
John
http://www.torah.org/learning/spiritual-excellence/archives.html
Gate seven in this series is on teshuvah, which is understood in Judaism as the ability to repent of sins; to turn to God once again after having turned away from Him; and to set things gone wrong aright. In other words, what we would know as repentance, conversion, and attonement. The Introduction to Gate 7 should give a good overview. Anyways, that is what I can say in comment for now.
Pax Voviscum,
John
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