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Boy Scouts is about scouting, not about religion.The Beginning of Scouting
Scouting, as known to millions of youth and adults, evolved during the early 1900s through the efforts of several men dedicated to bettering youth. These pioneers of the program conceived outdoor activities that developed skills in young boys and gave them a sense of enjoyment, fellowship, and a code of conduct for everyday living.
In this country and abroad at the turn of the century, it was thought that children needed certain kinds of education that the schools couldn't or didn't provide. This led to the formation of a variety of youth groups, many with the word "Scout" in their names. For example, Ernest Thompson Seton, an American naturalist, artist, writer, and lecturer, originated a group called the Woodcraft Indians and in 1902 wrote a guidebook for boys in his organization called the Birch Bark Roll. Meanwhile in Britain, Robert Baden-Powell, after returning to his country a hero following military service in Africa, found boys reading the manual he had written for his regiment on stalking and survival in the wild. Gathering ideas from Seton, America's Daniel Carter Beard, and other Scoutcraft experts, Baden-Powell rewrote his manual as a nonmilitary skill book, which he titled Scouting for Boys. The book rapidly gained a wide readership in England and soon became popular in the United States. In 1907, when Baden-Powell held the first campout for Scouts on Brownsea Island off the coast of England, troops were spontaneously springing up in America.
William D. Boyce, a Chicago publisher, incorporated the Boy Scouts of America in 1910 after meeting with Baden-Powell. (Boyce was inspired to meet with the British founder by an unknown Scout who led him out of a dense London fog and refused to take a tip for doing a Good Turn.) Immediately after its incorporation, the BSA was assisted by officers of the YMCA in organizing a task force to help community organizations start and maintain a high-quality Scouting program. Those efforts climaxed in the organization of the nation's first Scout camp at Lake George, New York, directed by Ernest Thompson Seton. Beard, who had established another youth group, the Sons of Daniel Boone (which he later merged with the BSA), provided assistance. Also on hand for this historic event was James E. West, a lawyer and an advocate of children's rights, who later would become the first professional Chief Scout Executive of the Boy Scouts of America. Seton became the first volunteer national Chief Scout, and Beard, the first national Scout commissioner.
RELIGIOUS SERVICES PROVIDED
Participants and staff members of all faiths will have the opportunity to attend religious services during the jamboree. These will be conducted by ordained and lay leaders of many faiths, including Protestant, Catholic, Episcopal, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Jewish, Eastern Orthodox, Christian Science, Reformed Latter-Day Saints, Lutheran, Buddhist, Islamic, and Unitarian-Universalist. Arrangements for other faiths will be made as needed. (2005 National Scout Jamboree)
morningstar2651 said:And as for Boy Scouting being a Christian organization -- that's not true.
Ampoliros said:Boy Scouts aren't a specifically Christian organization. They are a religious organization at the very least - and they are predominantly Christian, which causes favorable treatment of Christianity over all others (at the very least).
LittleNipper said:Scouting is what it because of it "Christian" background. I know of no perfect organazation in this world; however, the Scouts should stay just as they are. It isn't suppose to be picnic for liberals. Let them form their own club.
SimplyMe said:Why should liberals form their own club? Don't you mean that the non-religious or non-Christians should form their own club?
The same can be said of the KKK. They are what they are because of their Christian background and the KKK isnt supposed to be a picnic for liberals.LittleNipper said:Scouting is what it because of it "Christian" background. I know of no perfect organazation in this world; however, the Scouts should stay just as they are. It isn't suppose to be picnic for liberals. Let them form their own club.
Yes, and wasn't that lovely of them?Scally Cap said:ebia and others have very patiently pointed out that the APA's definition of "homosexual orientation" is not dependent on which OED usage you want to select for the single word "orientation."
If all you have to fall back on is splitting hairs about linguistics, rather than the substance of the APA's position on homosexuality, that's pretty weak.
Well... FINALLY. Somebody is making sense here. If you want to apply an "innate" quality to homosexuality, then yes, you should stop using the term orientation. There now. Was that so difficult?Okay, fine. Everybody here should call Adiya's bluff and quit using the term. Switch to two words whose definitions she seems to deem immutable--"innate" and "homosexuality." Don't talk about homosexual orientation anymore. Talk about innate homosexuality and see if the linguistic arguments evaporate.
By the way, Adiya, since you took every opportunity to demonstrate that your grasp of English is superior to ebia's, I assume you used "ponder" incorrectly in the quoted sentence above for humorous effect.
Fantastic.Dislike said:Y'know, Adiya, I can't tell you exactly why, or exactly how, but I find you to be the most annoying person I've ever had the misfortune of meeting!
Y'see, just soooo AGGRAVATING!Adiya said:Fantastic.
Now if we had only met, your impression would be applicable.
Have a lovely day.
Dislike said:Y'see, just soooo AGGRAVATING!
Point. I have met people online, ask others, they have too.
You haven't met this incarnation, no.Adiya said:So have I, but I have not met you, nor have you met me.
Very good. Now we are getting somewhere.Dislike said:You haven't met this incarnation, no.
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