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Neverstop said:...a general heart of apathy for those w/o a ssn, I would have to agree.
Neverstop said:There is a whole world of people out there besides Mexicans and let's not kid ourselves.....the illegals are here because we NEED their very very cheap labor.
arnegrim said:I'm not limiting the term 'illegals' to Mexican... and I don't care why they're here... they shouldn't be here illegally.
Oh... and let's compare how much aid we send to other countries... shall we?
Neverstop said:The majority, by and large are Mexicans....anyways....
To compare aid amount is moot because we have to first look at how the wealth, or ability to give aid, is acquired in the first place.
We don't praise drug dealers for giving money to the church do we?
arnegrim said:I don't care who the majority of illegals are... I said 'illegals' which encompasses any and all.
Fine... the fact remains that we give more to those who are here illegally then any other country.
It is estimated that China has 36 warheads capable of hitting the United States. Yes that would set us back a ways, but I think the stone age is a little bit of a stretch.MikeJ said:Hmmmm I voted no...but here is a big secret!! shhhhh!!! we aren't the only superpower in the world...oh we may be the only atomic weapons superpower..but never forget that rather massive over populated major communist nation that we could bomb into the stoneage and they could do the same to us..but as Mao said in the 60's you can bomb us into the stoneage but when we come out from the underground shelters we will have more than a 100 mill people left...so who will win???
Yes it is the only country that we have to worry about today for they can beat us with man power alone...something to think about people...
zoink said:It is estimated that China has 36 warheads capable of hitting the United States. Yes that would set us back a ways, but I think the stone age is a little bit of a stretch.
We can deliver about 5,100 warheads. So after having there country turned to glass (more then once if we so desire), are these 100 million Chinese going to walk across the Pacific Ocean or did we forget to nuke the ports? Keeping the supply lines open while invading the third largest country in the world is going to be real fun; especially with no infrastructure back in the homeland and the most advanced navy in world constantly shooting at them.
LogicChristian said:Fewer than that, more like 25 DF-5As, they take 1 hour to prepare for launch.
Also, how will those 100 million get anywhere even without the US Navy and a fully functional infrastructure without any boats to get them there? 6,000 miles is a heck of a long way to swim.
The United States could destroy China before they ever got their nukes off the ground if they attempted to attack. They were supposed to deploy new mobile missiles that could hit the West Coast in 2003, but after the last test failure, we haven't heard much on the program. They aren't supposed to have a modern missile that can hit the USA from China until 2010 at the earliest.
France and Britain are closer to being superpowers than China. They have ballistic submarine fleets as well as aircraft carriers. China has no carriers, a huge military that it can't actually transport anywhere it would actually need to fight, and a navy that couldn't even beat Japan's, much less Europe or the US.
I thought they only had 24 DF-5A's and I was being generous by letting them get there Xia launch its JL-1's. You are probably right though.LogicChristian said:Fewer than that, more like 25 DF-5As, they take 1 hour to prepare for launch.
The_Horses_Boy said:You defenitely have the wrong idea, no offense. For example, when the Roman military fell who picked up where they left? No one really for a while.
Then, transition of dominance from Britain to America - that's a special case. America is the daughter of Britain and has very similiar views and issues, in fact very similiar stances on the same issues. But if American military might fell, who would be next in line in terms of power? China. A transition of power from Democracy to Democracy is very different than from Democracy to Communism.
Law of Loud said:While I'm confident that the US is more than a match for China, I've little doubt the British were saying similiar things about the colonists during the Revolutionary War.
zoink said:It is estimated that China has 36 warheads capable of hitting the United States. Yes that would set us back a ways, but I think the stone age is a little bit of a stretch.
We can deliver about 5,100 warheads. So after having there country turned to glass (more then once if we so desire), are these 100 million Chinese going to walk across the Pacific Ocean or did we forget to nuke the ports? Keeping the supply lines open while invading the third largest country in the world is going to be real fun; especially with no infrastructure back in the homeland and the most advanced navy in world constantly shooting at them.
Sincerely,
zoink
LogicChristian said:Fewer than that, more like 25 DF-5As, they take 1 hour to prepare for launch.
Also, how will those 100 million get anywhere even without the US Navy and a fully functional infrastructure without any boats to get them there? 6,000 miles is a heck of a long way to swim.
The United States could destroy China before they ever got their nukes off the ground if they attempted to attack. They were supposed to deploy new mobile missiles that could hit the West Coast in 2003, but after the last test failure, we haven't heard much on the program. They aren't supposed to have a modern missile that can hit the USA from China until 2010 at the earliest.
France and Britain are closer to being superpowers than China. They have ballistic submarine fleets as well as aircraft carriers. China has no carriers, a huge military that it can't actually transport anywhere it would actually need to fight, and a navy that couldn't even beat Japan's, much less Europe or the US.
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