With the growing dissent worldwide against the U.S. and it's percieved empirical motivations, should we as a nation disarm our military and then submit to international rule? 
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Should the U.S. disarm itself and no longer maintain a military?
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SoupySayles said:
Don't assume I'm for international rule, okay. I would hate to have to listen to the UN when I go into combat nor would my fellow Marines, for the U.N isn't know for their success in battle. I'm presenting this to see how the overall consensus is, so don't assume too much without know the individual.
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KalEl76 said:Don't assume I'm for international rule, okay. I would hate to have to listen to the UN when I go into combat nor would my fellow Marines, for the U.N isn't know for their success in battle. I'm presenting this to see how the overall consensus is, so don't assume too much without know the individual.
Forgive me, it just comes across that way from how I read it. I stand by my 'No' vote however, and there is no reason to believe international rule would be any better. They can't even get food to people in Africa, how is the UN going to run a country as large and diverse as America?
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"With the growing dissent worldwide against the U.S. and it's percieved empirical motivations, should we as a nation disarm our military and then submit to international rule?"
How about we use the military for defense, not offense and avoid invading countries that pose no threat to us? It would make our country safer, the world safer, save our troops lives and our money.
How about we use the military for defense, not offense and avoid invading countries that pose no threat to us? It would make our country safer, the world safer, save our troops lives and our money.
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Disarm our military?
The world would fall apart.
We are blamed for every problem, but without our presence the world would be back to the border squirmises that they had in colonial times.
Our border would stay fairly safe, because of the second amendment, and if any challenged anything more then a
quick attack, would have our guard coming in.
Pulling our military back into our borders would cause as much problems, and would set up for WWIII.
Can you say isolationism.
Disbanding or even pulling our military back inside our borders would be abandoning our allies, and would aid their enemies.
We can not be a Swiss military. We are implanted in too many countries and ensure stability in the whole world.
Disbanding would drop the world into havoc.
The world would fall apart.
We are blamed for every problem, but without our presence the world would be back to the border squirmises that they had in colonial times.
Our border would stay fairly safe, because of the second amendment, and if any challenged anything more then a
quick attack, would have our guard coming in.
Pulling our military back into our borders would cause as much problems, and would set up for WWIII.
Can you say isolationism.
Disbanding or even pulling our military back inside our borders would be abandoning our allies, and would aid their enemies.
We can not be a Swiss military. We are implanted in too many countries and ensure stability in the whole world.
Disbanding would drop the world into havoc.
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Since the majority of Americans are self proclaimed Christians I say put your feet where your mouths are...
"For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does.
The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."
2nd Corinthians 10:3-5 NIV
"For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does.
The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."
2nd Corinthians 10:3-5 NIV
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Dragons87
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There is no such thing as "international rule". Nobody will come under that ever in the near future...maybe perhaps not until the rise of Antichrist (Left Behind series, hahahahahaha)
Maintain your military. Although people loathe it, the U.S. is exactly what the world needs right now. This, coming from a Chinese. You'd better believe it.
Maintain your military. Although people loathe it, the U.S. is exactly what the world needs right now. This, coming from a Chinese. You'd better believe it.
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What was your point? I took it as though you were trying to show a contradiction with "self-proclaimed Christians." They're religion does not support war, so they shouldn't be supporting a government that starts wars. Is this wrong?Neverstop said:No kidding!
This only ignores the points in my post so if my posts are going to be quoted...then can the points at least be responded to instead of these...things.
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Neverstop said:
Wonderful scripture to show the difference between the physical war and the spiritual war.
Terrible scripture to use 'against' having a military.
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arnegrim said:
It's a wonderful scripture for those who understand the physical is but an illusion.
It's not an accident that every pro-war person I have met likes to dismiss this scripture as only applying to "spiritual." I actually had another person the other day try to tell me that Jesus gave non-violent instruction for our "personal" lives and that it did not apply to government. I would like to know how one person killing another person is NOT "personal?"
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There is a big difference between placing an old motto on US currency and actually implementing government policies based on religion. So no, I don't see the problem. Why don't you just lay it out for me?Neverstop said:
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Holidays have more to do with cultural traditions than Bible quotes. So I see no problem with this, but I am a strong believer that government policies, such as international relations, should not be based on religion.Neverstop said:
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