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I explained to you what I meant when I said that. I understand what you are saying in a SPIRTUAL sense.I have NOTHING in and of myself! It ALL comes from God! I was born with nothing and will die with nothing! Which part of this does not compute?
thank you. We are all sexual beings, but we also were given a brain to know we should control it and we should have the self control to do so.It is immoral to bring children into the world for OTHERS to support.
The World is grossly overcrowded with children conceived by parents who were irresponsible enough to procreate in the absence of the wherewithal to support them. It is time that evil practice be abolished. If you can't afford them, don't get pregnant. It is that simple.
Who then are you preaching to when you don't lead by example?None! And you?
It is immoral to bring children into the world for OTHERS to support.
The World is grossly overcrowded with children conceived by parents who were irresponsible enough to procreate in the absence of the wherewithal to support them. It is time that evil practice be abolished. If you can't afford them, don't get pregnant. It is that simple.
None! And you?
so people should just have children because supposedly no child is a mistake, yet there is an easy way to NOT have children that you cannot properly care for?Give me scripture and verse to substantiate this view and I will concede.
I have already stated in previous posts that those who act irresponsibly will be held to account for their actions but no child, regardless of parental morality, is a mistake and it is equally immoral and evil to deny them the right to exist based on this premise!
Who then are you preaching to when you don't lead by example?
Judging others opinions, which is all that can be afforded here in the question posed by the OP. And yet an opinion that judges others for not having children, not condemning birth control and abortion, and that admits it also isn't preaching about adoption by example, sends its own kind of message to the subject.
so people should just have children because supposedly no child is a mistake, yet there is an easy way to NOT have children that you cannot properly care for?
If you want children and can take care of them great, BUT God also expects to do our part and part of that is to live within our means and part of that is not having dependents you cannot afford.No people should have children because they want them and love them and not because they're a source of income, meal ticket or otherwise! Unfortunately we live in a fallen world and so these things do happen, it is the result of sin but it does not negate God's primary directive! It is for Him to sort out, not us with our medical interventions and moral high ground!
You declined to answer the question yourself and God will judge whether or not I have led by example! Adoption is not the only means by which to support and provide for children that are not your own. I am not judging others for not having children, that is a personal choice between the individual and their creator. I am pro life in all its forms and beleive (for my sins it would appear) that God is too! I do not see any biblical evidence to support birth control, abortion, compulsory contraception, sterilisation or anything else! It frustrates me that other Christians cannot see this and I apologise if my zeal has caused you or anyone else offence!
You mean the taxpayers pay it. Governments don't generate wealth, only take it and re-distribute it.It's a question of gov quality. I live in Switzerland, and here the gov pays more than 300 bucks for every child.
Do you believe as a matter of general principle that your neighbors should pay for your life choices?So you can have as many children you want without problems.
I think the Swiss history is rather unique in that with their resolve to stay out of Europe's wars they've had to maintain a level of strength that makes having children, especially males, a matter of national security.This has always been that way, even before Switzerland was a rich country, so it's not a matter of richness, but a matter of priorities of the state.
If you want children and can take care of them great, BUT God also expects to do our part and part of that is to live within our means and part of that is not having dependents you cannot afford.
I have a friend that when we meet up, we always end up talking about a fairly controversial issue and often can never agree on them.
This came up yesterday as we were watching a programme on a family on welfare benefits with 11 children who were saying that the government were not helping them enough to look after the children and buy what they need.
What are your views? Should the government/ general public be in the position to pay for this?
It USED TO be that parents were responsible for their children. Now, apparently, it takes a village.Define "afford"? Aren't children automatically supported by living in their parents households and their parents giving them food?
It USED TO be that parents were responsible for their children. Now, apparently, it takes a village.
But what about all the poor little kids being born with problems never heard of in my dayWomen are not dying in childbirth like they used to. There is more risk from dying from pregnancy related complications than from birth control related complications.
Like I said earlier, the average family on welfare includes 1.8 children, which seems pretty normal to me. It certainly isn't "many children."
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