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Should I feel this way ?

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I was going to post this a week ago but thought if I should because I was not taking my meds and wanted to think about it but now I know I must take my meds because supplements are not alternative treatments but for those with some problems in an area but not having the illness itself in my case depression and wrong thinking which is treated by some safe antipsychotics. My behaviour has improved being back on the medication and I think clearer but I still think these thoughts are completely valid

I was watching a Christian YouTube video on overcoming lust and I saw in related videos a video ad for a tv show called foursome.


I went and clicked on it because I thought don't tell me they have no shame to try to make such a thing into comedy and something people should have no shame for. I found it even more disgusting than I expected though I saw no scenes


It makes me feel like it is naive of me to think that anyone wants to change and I should show more disapproval towards them atleast not in their face but to speak about their deeds before the world or some or many will not repent I even thought of Paul saying have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but expose them and how Paul said those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all that the rest may also fear but he meant only to fellow Christians but I also think those who try to attack Christians like Jezebel ought to be rebuked.


When Christians tolerate the worlds behaviour by teaching others we ought to tell believers who are offended that they are judgemental or have mental problems when they just want support privately from a fellow christian close friend it seems we don't care enough to prevent Jezebel to teach and seduce God's people to commit immorality. Even if their reaction is to be immoral because Christians sin and they feel we hurt them that is over exaggerating and inexcusable and unforgiving. I am angry mostly because if they are going to exaggerate my sin this much and say I don't care then I might as well not care or be less hopeful because even if I am righteous many still won't care but I will be righteous for myself and maybe the few who benefit


But I admit our hypocrisy even if we are not as bad as those who portray us does hurt some people but these people seem to be glad about it. Paul said I always strive to have a conscience void of offense before God. And St Peter said I beg you to abstain from lusts which war against the soul that when the Gentiles say you are evil doers they may change their mind when God visits them when they see the good some of you do or what you will do. Therefore we have responsibility. If the salt has lost its flavour and we are just like the world it is unprofitable and they don't benefit from another Christian in whatever way but they still have seen therefore they are without excuse


The world (by which I mean the enemy of God) through Hollywood make these videos to make us feel most people are bad they would even prefer to make it that Christians think sin is okay and it is better to be in sin than appear a Pharisee and they also want to say the fact that many Christians have struggles with sin it means they wish they didn't have to keep the law


But it is true that I should not be naive to believe everyone could desire the love of the truth or righteousness to be saved even if room was made for them and I should not let them affect me as Jesus said let those who are filthy remain filthy and those who are righteous remain righteous in revelations. But I am angry that they are trying to destroy christian morals and possibly turn the wheat into tares who though are not a perfect wheat they remain wheat and are saved when they are not deceived by others that God is unjust and to have sympathy for them because of weakness or rather prevent the wheat from turning the tares into wheat who could be saved but are not because they are wheat before but the tares turned them into tares. As Paul said who is made to stumble and I do not burn with indignation ?
 
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Seems to be a rather rambling stream-of-consciousness rant against "immorality", based on a youtube highschool-friends-relationship show that he didn't even watch, but disliked the title.
 
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Seems to be a rather rambling stream-of-consciousness rant against "immorality", based on a youtube highschool-friends-relationship show that he didn't even watch, but disliked the title.
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You won't be able to appreciate my post because you are both non Christian but I have received a private message before any of you posted to show appreciation. A dear brother said it resonates with him and he understood most of it but I said too many things at once to address but the picture is funny. It fits my perception of you guys. That you have to react to what a Christian does because you don't like the way they want to change the flow of life
 
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You won't be able to appreciate my post because you are both non Christian but I have received a private message before any of you posted to show appreciation. A dear brother said it resonates with him and he understood most of it but I said too many things at once to address but the picture is funny. It fits my perception of you guys. That you have to react to what a Christian does because you don't like the way they want to change the flow of life
If you don't think non-christans can appreciate your posts, the christian only section is that-a-way.
 
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Looking at a different trailer it doesn't look so bad much more than what is normally bad and they said the foursome is not in a sexual way but the other trailer I watched before says well not always so it is. So you are wrong that it is just about friendships
still we should not find any of what is shown funny. This should not be the normal behaviour of teenagers and none of it is acceptable before God
 
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Looking at a different trailer it doesn't look so bad much more than what is normally bad and they said the foursome is not in a sexual way but the other trailer I watched before says well not always so it is. So you are wrong that it is just about friendships
still we should not find any of what is shown funny. This should not be the normal behaviour of teenagers and none of it is acceptable before God
"We" should not find this funny?
Perhaps you should get your focus right. "Should I feel this way?", you asked in the title.
Well, basically, that is a question only you can answer for yourself. If you do feel this way, and you accept it... do it. If you don't want to accept it... try to change it.

But to go around and telling other people what they should care about, what they should laugh about... hey, I don't think you would appreciate it, if I as an atheist told you to do that.

Basically: if you don't like something, if you don't think it conforms to your "Christian lifestyle"... don't do it. But don't go around telling people who do like it that they are "trying to destroy christian morals".
 
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"We" should not find this funny?
Perhaps you should get your focus right. "Should I feel this way?", you asked in the title.
Well, basically, that is a question only you can answer for yourself. If you do feel this way, and you accept it... do it. If you don't want to accept it... try to change it.

But to go around and telling other people what they should care about, what they should laugh about... hey, I don't think you would appreciate it, if I as an atheist told you to do that.

Basically: if you don't like something, if you don't think it conforms to your "Christian lifestyle"... don't do it. But don't go around telling people who do like it that they are "trying to destroy christian morals".

Okay you may be right but I can still say they may be trying to destroy Christian morals but unless we know we should not do anything but they should know we condemn their behaviour if they are but keep it to ourselves
Jesus said Offences must come for that reason perhaps

I tell myself I am not trying to win the argument but to make people know my view in case they use my silence as proof that I have no right to be offended in any case even when they know their behaviour can stumble people especially if a woman behaves that way with a married man when they are alone and finds no problem to sleep with him if he approaches her according to her beliefs
 
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Okay you may be right but I can still say they may be trying to destroy Christian morals but unless we know we should not do anything but they should know we condemn their behaviour if they are but keep it to ourselves
Jesus said Offences must come for that reason perhaps
Somehow I don't think Jesus ever said that... ;) He talked about people tempting others... not people being tempted. Consider the difference, it is important.

Imagine: sanctimonious Christians tempt me to act violently against them. If I were to beat you up, who would be to blame? You or me?

I tell myself I am not trying to win the argument but to make people know my view in case they use my silence as proof that I have no right to be offended in any case even when they know their behaviour can stumble people especially if a woman behaves that way with a married man when they are alone and finds no problem to sleep with him if he approaches her according to her beliefs
See, that is the problem with your approach. There is a woman, and she acts "accoring to her beliefs"... and this somehow makes other people "stumble".

I dislike the way "personal responsibility" is thrown around by conservatives not wanting to help people in need... but it is a correct concept for one thing: take personal responsibility for your own actions. If you act against your beliefs, there is no one other to blame than yourself.
You are a married man and you don't think it is right to sleep with other women? Then don't do it! But don't go around blaming women... or TV shows... for doing it and feeling guilty about it.

You might have a point if someone set out to "tempt" you... but if you lash out against everything that you personally find "tempting" or "offensive", you might want to consider that the blame lies with you here.

Speak out against whatever you like... but don't expect other people to cater to your preferences. Consider, non-Christians have the same right to speak out against your cherished beliefs... and you wouldn't want them to dictate what you should like, dislike, do or not do? Or would you?
 
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"Jesus said Offences must come for that reason perhaps"

Somehow I don't think Jesus ever said that...
Matthew 18:7
Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!
 
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Matthew 18:7
Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!
I knew that verse... I referred to the "for that reason perhaps". ;) Just read the next sentence, where I explicitly reffered to the "people tempting others"... the "by whom the offence comes."
 
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