It depends on how those sins are portrayed. The Bible is filled with accounts of people sinning, but the context makes it clear that what they are doing is wrong. The same can be said for television shows (or any storytelling media for that matter). If I'm watching a mystery show, someone might be murdered or something might get stolen. But the reactions of the characters are usually those of shock and horror. Whatever crime it is, it's neither glorified or treated as a morally neutral thing. It's shown to be wrong, because we how what happened has hurt others, and the plot centers on how the protagonists bring the villain to justice (or, in the case of some stories, how they give the villain the option to seek forgiveness).If you watch people commit sins, how are you any better then them?
The overall theme of the Bible is that it condemns sin. Many times we see those who sin as being punished. Other times there are moral lessons going on by God’s people when bad guys are sinning. Watching sinful secular movies pushes sin upon you with no correction of that sin. It would be like watching inappropriate content and saying it would not effect you. The same is true if we watch secular fiction that pushes sinful worldly ideas, and particular sins. Try taking notes on how many times a person sins in the next secular movie you watch. Just watch it to record the sins that they are doing and ask yourself if this is the kind of thing you want to dwell on in your life. We are told to focus on that which is good and not evil. God’s Word is holy and so when it records bad things it is as a warning to us. Sinful movies do not later correct their own sinful agenda. Therein lies the difference.
Careful is all I will say. I've heard the TV argument many times from Christians and it's usually extremely legalistic.
TV in and of itself is not wrong at all. If you say we have to throw TV out altogether, that means you have to throw out entertaining books, plays, types of people you might hang out with, lots of other things.
It isn't the TV itself, it's the content that can be a problem.
Even then, we must remember not to be legalistic,
You said:Christ says EVERYTHING we do should be edifying to Him.
You said:However, edifying shouldn't be legalistic in any way shape or form.
You said:It's about your heart, there are TV shows that have some cuss words but are far more edifying than say a TV show that's perfectly clean but burns brain cells. LOL
You said:And, edification isn't just entertainment that is made by Christians. Worldly entertainment can be just as edifying (of course I do not mean areas of entertainment that praise sinful lifestyles), because everything brings Glory to God. He created this entire world, and the world has to except His good and natural laws in some way shape or form because it's all that exists.
You said:The best TV arguments I've found are those from Christians who have a TV addiction problem. Which is exactly where cutting off TV completely is a good thing. For example, I watch a lot of the Marvel MCU films (some I don't like Doctor Strange but most I watch) and I believe it's okay to do so because I'm not addicted to these films. I'm not going to say everything in all these movies is okay or biblical, of course not. But there is great edification when you have pure good fighting pure evil, and when these movies show human weakness.
You said:Of course, the hardest part with entertainment is the line itself. Where do you draw the line. Movies that completely praise sinful lifestyles and desires should not be watched. However, if a movie has a great story, with edifying parts everywhere, but has say a few cuss words and one romantic scene in it. Is it a sin to watch if you block yourself from those specific scenes?
Another question is, should we as Christians be playing video games? A lot of these games glorify demonic creatures and black magic.
Have you noticed how many movies have the same basics, good and evil, and much more often than not, the good triumphs over evil? Now don't get me wrong, I make no excuses here, even if the good does win, there is a lot of sin on TV just as there is when we walk down the street. If I find something more repulsive than I care to deal with, I won't watch, but otherwise, I need no excuse to enjoy what is hopefully a good story as long as it doesn't cause me to sin.
It may not edify, but it is allowed. I know where I'm headed and no movie will ever change that.
Have you noticed how many movies have the same basics, good and evil, and much more often than not, the good triumphs over evil? Now don't get me wrong, I make no excuses here, even if the good does win, there is a lot of sin on TV just as there is when we walk down the street. If I find something more repulsive than I care to deal with, I won't watch, but otherwise, I need no excuse to enjoy what is hopefully a good story as long as it doesn't cause me to sin.
It may not edify, but it is allowed. I know where I'm headed and no movie will ever change that.
I recently found that website too brother. I was really blessed by it! I learned about the superiority of the KJV as a complete translation on that site. I also learned some other ways Satan is sneaking into this world of his.
I realize that the website comes across as uncompromising... and it is. The views can seem a bit extreme. That said, I haven't found any teaching that's wrong. And just to give a little perspective, the site keeper has articles about family-centered entertainment, etc. They're not saying to go around chasing down people with our Bibles, etc... or anything extreme at all. They're saying to practice wisdom and discernment in a world run by a crafty old pervert.
This article has been really helpful for me in cultivating a deep inner relationship with God, specifically this quote:
All is well at home in the inner life where there is me and God and his word.
So, back to TV. I think we all work out our salvation with God. I wouldn't pull the speck out of your eye, that's for sure. I'm happily widdling away at my plank.
Part of what I personally do, not even because of being a Christian but because of having limited income, is have no TV. We have Internet. We use YouTube, Amazon Prime, and Netflix. There are no commercials (you can skip them or get an ad blocker). YOU choose the content! That's the beauty.
It takes a lot of wisdom and discernment when it comes to all media. The thing is that I don't think TV is inherently evil. Neither are cars, money, phones, or jobs. But they can all become idols. OR... Slowly, insidiously distract us from the work of the Kingdom. Now that's the enemy's style, wouldn't you say?
So let's remember what the Lord Jesus said to the church of Laodicea lest He spit US out of His blessed mouth. Revelation 3:14-22
Because I'm not sinning?
That's just a weird question to me. OK, let's try this, If you read about people commiting sins in the bible, how are you any better then them?
a television is simply a tool, neither good or evil. Same with the a computer. You can choose what you watch on either and much is very good and uplifting. Other things are not but that is not the machine's fault. I don't even have proper TV, I watch DVDs and Blu-Rays
This is one of those loaded questions where the poster often doesn't think of what this leads to. For example why are you online? The internet is full of evil God would not want you supporting the internet. By paying for it you are contributing to it. Do you own a phone? Clothes? Car? Home? So many of these things are made by abused poor people in 3rd world countries. Would God want you to support that?
Do you own a bible? Why? Would God be ok with endless amounts of trees being chopped down just to make a book? Or if you really wanted get deep, what does God think of your divorce?
My point being tv is not a sin. What is a sin is turning it into an idol. If you skip church because the night before was some movie you wanted to watch until 1am, perhaps tv has become an idol.
Now if we are talking the semantics of "What would Jesus do?", He would not be on this forum or using technology at all.
I always say for those 100% against tv, if you want to be true to Jesus, you need to move to a cave with nothing. Not even clothes or food. No tools. No tech. No tent. No bucket...etc. Because living in a cave and living off the land is the ONLY way to even be close what Jesus would approve of given you would avoid the world entirely.
However there is even one flaw with that. Salvation. How can we spread the Word if we live in a cave and don't interact with anyone?
None of this is to say we should just watch any tv "just because". We should have boundaries. No shows with the occult, nothing with a ton of swearing, nudity, gore...etc. Maybe that won't leave much but its safe(ish). I also believe the Holy Spirit will let you know if you are doing something you shouldn't. Though those who are luke warm probably don't notice what the Holy Spirit is saying because they may not truly believe in their heart and hence the voice is just a bunch of background noise.
Nothing wrong with the weather. You can check that on your phone.
You can also do whatever you please.
The news is a tool to manipulate and divide. It does nothing for the growth of the Kingdom of God.
I got this from this website
Jesus-is-Lord.com
I agree with everything written
Christian, do you have a television in your home?
You do? Why?
If Jesus came back tonight, do you think He would be happy to find His army staring glassy-eyed at some flesh-pleasing trash being pumped out of Hollywood into the minds of His soldiers?
Have you ever stopped to think about that thing that you stare at night after night, day after day, year after year?
Did you spend more time on your television today than you did on your knees or reading your Bible?
You did? Why?
Do you allow your children to sit hour after hour, day after day, year after year in front of a boob tube?
Why?
Would you invite Satan to come into your home, sit down in your living room, talk, tell jokes, show evil pictures for hour after hour to your wife and children? Would you invite a sex pervert into your living room to brag to your family about his or her "alternate lifestyle"? Would you let a drug-pusher come into your home and give everyone in your household a drug that would dull their mind, make you forget God, make you feel nice and happy and stupid, day after day, year after year?
Isn't that what many Christians do [by watching mindless television]? Are you one of them?
If statistics are true (and every one knows they lie), then 97% of American homes have a television in them. Have you wondered why that is so? Does your preacher ever mention it?
I wonder why not.
What does God say about it?
In the second epistle of John, verses 9-11, we read:
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
The Word of God tells us to not invite someone into our house who abideth not in the doctrine of Christ.
Do the people on your tv screen abide in the doctrine of Christ?
Do you think that those actors and producers out in Hollywood love the Lord and abide in His doctrines? Maybe you think so. I don't. Friend, you don't have to be in Hollywood long to realize what kind of a place it is. I lived there once years ago, and I don't think it has probably changed much. It's not the kind of environment you want to bring into your living room everyday. In fact, those Hollywood people who pump out their programs into your household hate the Lord and despise His doctrines and blasphemously mock Him. Should ANYONE give ear to their programs? Millions do -- Christians among them! Why is this?
Do you think that the sponsors of television programs tell you the truth in their advertising? You don't? Then why do you sit there listening to LIES?
The Law of God tells us that we should not covet. Now what do you suppose is the purpose of ALL advertising you see on tv? Is it to encourage you to a simpler lifestyle? Is it to make you content with the things that God has blessed you with? Does it make you want to sell ALL and follow the Lord with a whole heart?
Remember the sin of Achan. He brought destruction on his entire household by coveting a goodly Babylonish garment (Joshua 7:21).
Psalm 101:3 says:
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
Is your tv a "good thing"? Do you think that if the Lord Jesus were here on earth today, He would sit and watch the things you watch?
In 2 Corinthians 6:17, the Bible says:
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you...
Friend, are you being separate when you sit in front of your tv? Do you think that the shows you watch on tv are "clean" by any Biblical definition?
Walk down your street sometime at twilight. Look at the houses you see along the way. What is that glowing thing in the living room of house after house of Christian and non-Christian alike? Who are these zombies transfixed by staring into its flickering glare?
"Well, what about Christian programming?" I hear you say.
Well, what about it? Is it really Christian? Is it necessary? Is it for you?
"Well, I know someone who was saved by watching a Christian program." Well, fine. Now that they're saved, there's no reason to go on watching it, right? The Lord has better things for them to do from that point on than to sit and gape stupidly at their television set any more.
"Well, what about the news? How am I supposed to know what's going on in the world if I don't watch the 6 o'clock news?" you say.
Friend, do you really think that the 20 minutes of non-advertisement time in the 6 o'clock news is pure and objective? Are the values of CBS, NBC, CNN, ABC YOUR values? Do they honor God? It seems to me that these networks, in their news presentations, are among those who call evil good, and good, evil. They are very powerful in shaping people's attitudes, Christians and non-Christians alike. You need to be very wise to withstand them. There have been dramatic changes in people's attitudes toward sin in the past few decades. A lot of this has come from constantly breathing the poisonous atmosphere of television.
Friend, God tells us in His Book, that we should "redeem the time." I think that has a special application to this time in which we live and our television watching. Get into your King James Bible, get down on your knees in prayer, lift up your hands in Holy praise, don't waste your time and the Lord's time glued hour after hour to your tv.
...Television is like any addiction -- once you go for a few weeks without watching it, you'll soon forget all about it -- it's really the easiest of all addictions to break, which is all the more remarkable considering how many people are snared by it.
Friend, I ask you to examine your attitude toward tv watching. Go to the Lord and ask Him what you should do about it. Listen carefully to His answer, and then if He tells you to unplug it and hide it in your closet, then DO IT! If He tells you to take it out to the dumpster, then DO IT! If He tells you to warn your friends and co-workers and fellow-church members about it, then DO IT, but not until you have resolved this important issue in your own life first.
God wants us to lead pure and holy lives. "But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness." (I Timothy 6:11.)
And may the Lord richly bless you
I agree its not the tv itself, but how it is used. The sins that keep us from a relationship with our Lord, is the same sins people act out in movies. Just ask yourself this question, Are the movies i watch glorifying God?
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