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<blockquote data-quote="JackKerouac" data-source="post: 69297547" data-attributes="member: 135640"><p>Which makes it more baffling that you couldn't follow it.</p><p></p><p>No, you didn't just simply ask what was the big deal about lust. You had to throw in "and you all are worried about lust? ROFLMAO" and "Man.. you can't buy the kind of entertainment that takes place in this forum... Truth is always stranger than fiction."</p><p></p><p>Did you forget that part? It's right there on the first page as a record. </p><p></p><p>You still haven't explained to me what I said that was pompous. Was it pompous of me to state what people's concerns actually were? Was it pompous of me to suggest that you and others were attempting to minimize lust and be condescending toward those who struggled with it? Was it pompous of me to characterize your post (containing the quotes I included above) as being snarky and rude? You might not agree with those statements, but to characterize them as pompous seems to betray a misunderstanding of that word.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, you kinda did. When you take something someone is saying, particularly something they clearly feel strongly about, and basically make fun of it saying it means nothing, that's minimizing it. </p><p></p><p>You clearly did more than that, as I showed above.</p><p></p><p>If you think I was being wacky, you've clearly got a low frustration tolerance for wackness (which, by the way, is a moderately decent movie). And I accused you of being condescending becuase you were.</p><p></p><p>Oh, but you're wrong. Lust indeed has quantifiable effects on other people. Infidelity? Divorce? Sexual assaults? Are none of those indications of quantifiable effects on other people? Shoot, wars have been fought as a result of lust. Also, you don't get to determine what effects these things do or do not have on other people. I know what effects lust has had on me and you don't get to say it has had no effect on me. Keep in mind that, when I (and, I believe, others here) use the word lust, I'm not just talking about sexual attraction and desire, neither of which most Christians have any problem with.</p><p></p><p>Except it's not. First of all, this statement makes absolutely no sense. Secondly, my insinuation was based on the fact that, by all reasonable measures, you were being snarky and rude. You're not the first person to be that way on an internet forum and you won't be the last. Don't make such a big deal of it.</p><p></p><p>I haven't answered this question for you because it's not the topic I was addressing with you. That being said, most Christians believe that lust is a big deal is because it is a sin and often leads to more sins. It also has negative impact on my relationships to other people and to God. So, while my lusting may not have much impact on most people around me (although, as I showed earlier, it could), it is a concern to me and other Christians because I don't want to sin, be led to sin, or have damaged relationships because of it.</p><p></p><p>Oh my jeepers. Do you seriously think that's what you have done? You've done nothing of the sort. First of all, nothing I've said has been irrational. Secondly, nothing you have said has effectively countered anything I've said. I didn't even realize you were attempting to prove me to be irrational. Oh well...</p><p></p><p></p><p>And here's where we get to the heart of the matter. This is a Christian forum. In fact, that's the name of the place. Christian Forums. Does it surprise you that many people on a Christian forum are going to have a Christian worldview and perspective on things? Do you really think it's appropriate for you to come to a Christian forum and make these kinds of vicious digs at Christianity and Christians? Do you think maybe that's why you might be seen as rude and as minimizing people's beliefs? I don't have a problem with folks who are not Christians posting here. I actually think that can add a lot to the discussions, whether they're serious or just for fun. But when I travel to another culture, and I know I'm in a culture that clearly differs from my own, I'm not going to sit at the table of someone from that culture and make fun of their culture in general or things about their culture. And if I do, I'm certainly in no place to get agitated and defensive about how they might react to what I've done. I invite you to consider how having that same attitude might enable you to have more respectful and productive disagreements. In fact, I would love it if you and I were quite done with this tit-for-tat and could carry on with a respectful, productive discussion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JackKerouac, post: 69297547, member: 135640"] Which makes it more baffling that you couldn't follow it. No, you didn't just simply ask what was the big deal about lust. You had to throw in "and you all are worried about lust? ROFLMAO" and "Man.. you can't buy the kind of entertainment that takes place in this forum... Truth is always stranger than fiction." Did you forget that part? It's right there on the first page as a record. You still haven't explained to me what I said that was pompous. Was it pompous of me to state what people's concerns actually were? Was it pompous of me to suggest that you and others were attempting to minimize lust and be condescending toward those who struggled with it? Was it pompous of me to characterize your post (containing the quotes I included above) as being snarky and rude? You might not agree with those statements, but to characterize them as pompous seems to betray a misunderstanding of that word. Yeah, you kinda did. When you take something someone is saying, particularly something they clearly feel strongly about, and basically make fun of it saying it means nothing, that's minimizing it. You clearly did more than that, as I showed above. If you think I was being wacky, you've clearly got a low frustration tolerance for wackness (which, by the way, is a moderately decent movie). And I accused you of being condescending becuase you were. Oh, but you're wrong. Lust indeed has quantifiable effects on other people. Infidelity? Divorce? Sexual assaults? Are none of those indications of quantifiable effects on other people? Shoot, wars have been fought as a result of lust. Also, you don't get to determine what effects these things do or do not have on other people. I know what effects lust has had on me and you don't get to say it has had no effect on me. Keep in mind that, when I (and, I believe, others here) use the word lust, I'm not just talking about sexual attraction and desire, neither of which most Christians have any problem with. Except it's not. First of all, this statement makes absolutely no sense. Secondly, my insinuation was based on the fact that, by all reasonable measures, you were being snarky and rude. You're not the first person to be that way on an internet forum and you won't be the last. Don't make such a big deal of it. I haven't answered this question for you because it's not the topic I was addressing with you. That being said, most Christians believe that lust is a big deal is because it is a sin and often leads to more sins. It also has negative impact on my relationships to other people and to God. So, while my lusting may not have much impact on most people around me (although, as I showed earlier, it could), it is a concern to me and other Christians because I don't want to sin, be led to sin, or have damaged relationships because of it. Oh my jeepers. Do you seriously think that's what you have done? You've done nothing of the sort. First of all, nothing I've said has been irrational. Secondly, nothing you have said has effectively countered anything I've said. I didn't even realize you were attempting to prove me to be irrational. Oh well... And here's where we get to the heart of the matter. This is a Christian forum. In fact, that's the name of the place. Christian Forums. Does it surprise you that many people on a Christian forum are going to have a Christian worldview and perspective on things? Do you really think it's appropriate for you to come to a Christian forum and make these kinds of vicious digs at Christianity and Christians? Do you think maybe that's why you might be seen as rude and as minimizing people's beliefs? I don't have a problem with folks who are not Christians posting here. I actually think that can add a lot to the discussions, whether they're serious or just for fun. But when I travel to another culture, and I know I'm in a culture that clearly differs from my own, I'm not going to sit at the table of someone from that culture and make fun of their culture in general or things about their culture. And if I do, I'm certainly in no place to get agitated and defensive about how they might react to what I've done. I invite you to consider how having that same attitude might enable you to have more respectful and productive disagreements. In fact, I would love it if you and I were quite done with this tit-for-tat and could carry on with a respectful, productive discussion. [/QUOTE]
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