Sex talk with Quakers.

aussieoldcatholic said:

hey everyone. I'd just like to ask a question about Quaker views on sex. particularly how do Quakers view Homosexuality and homosexuals in general. as

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From wikipedia:
The views of Quakers around the world towards homosexualitysame-sex marriage, to the view that homosexuality is sinfully deviant and contrary to God's intentions for sexual expression. encompasses a range from complete celebration and the practice of

The early Quakers would not have "embraced" the new views. They were a holiness movement.

aussieoldcatholic said:

hey everyone. I'd just like to ask a question about Quaker views on sex. particularly how do Quakers view Homosexuality and homosexuals in general. as

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One of the distinctions within Quakerism is programmed and unprogrammed worship. Programmed worship (which I have no experience with) is similar to other protestant denominations how liberal it is varies by location. Unprogrammed worship where I live is fully supportive of gays, gay rights, and gay marriage. As for the poster above saying the early Quakers wouldn't have approved, just keep this in mind; for as long as they have existed Quakers have been to the left of what was socially acceptable for the time, and to date they have always been on the correct side of history.

419gam said:

One of the distinctions within Quakerism is programmed and unprogrammed worship. Programmed worship (which I have no experience with) is similar to other protestant denominations how liberal it is varies by location. Unprogrammed worship where I live is fully supportive of gays, gay rights, and gay marriage. As for the poster above saying the early Quakers wouldn't have approved, just keep this in mind; for as long as they have existed Quakers have been to the left of what was socially acceptable for the time, and to date they have always been on the correct side of history.

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The early Quakers were seeking to be on God's side, not history's side.

Quakers are as diverse as any segment of the population. You even have Wiccans and atheists claiming to be Quakers!...An athiest Quaker is, of course, an oxymoron. George Fox told a judge to quake at the presence of the Lord and Quakers were know as such for quaking in God's presence.

Now we have Atheist Quakers??? ROFL.

No, Wm. Penn, George Fox, Robert Barclay, etc, would never have condoned homosexual 'marriage' or any other such disobedience to God's Word.

Sounds like the parrot had an aggression issue with it's former owner. With the cat in the house I would definitely keep the bird in the cage. Animals are animals. I have never known a cat that wouldn't leap after something zipping back and forth in his territory. I know it is neat to have the Quaker flying around the house. The reality of the situation is that you are putting your bird in serious danger by doing so.

A bird will fly into a mirror, window and will go for a dip in the commode or sink. They are chewers by nature. That includes wires to appliances, TV, the trim work in your house the TV stand, couch, chairs and anything else it can get to. There will be people who disagree with me. Think about the safety of the bird.
Clip his flight feathers starting at the tips. Clip the outside feather first. Then about three days later clip the next outside (flight) feather. Do this every three or four days until your bird can get to the floor without bumping hard.

Now in the amish religion there views on sex on different . They do not talk to their children about sex, there is no school sex education and homosexuality is a sin in their view. Also sex before marriage is sin I believe .

fashion master said:

Sounds like the parrot had an aggression issue with it's former owner. With the cat in the house I would definitely keep the bird in the cage. Animals are animals. I have never known a cat that wouldn't leap after something zipping back and forth in his territory. I know it is neat to have the Quaker flying around the house. The reality of the situation is that you are putting your bird in serious danger by doing so.

A bird will fly into a mirror, window and will go for a dip in the commode or sink. They are chewers by nature. That includes wires to appliances, TV, the trim work in your house the TV stand, couch, chairs and anything else it can get to. There will be people who disagree with me. Think about the safety of the bird.
Clip his flight feathers starting at the tips. Clip the outside feather first. Then about three days later clip the next outside (flight) feather. Do this every three or four days until your bird can get to the floor without bumping hard.

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Michael Snow said:

The early Quakers were seeking to be on God's side, not history's side.

Quakers are as diverse as any segment of the population. You even have Wiccans and atheists claiming to be Quakers!...An athiest Quaker is, of course, an oxymoron. George Fox told a judge to quake at the presence of the Lord and Quakers were know as such for quaking in God's presence.

Now we have Atheist Quakers??? ROFL.

No, Wm. Penn, George Fox, Robert Barclay, etc, would never have condoned homosexual 'marriage' or any other such disobedience to God's Word.

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Friend, I disagree. Quakers have long led the movement towards acceptance of people as they are, where they are. Penn, Fox, Barclay and Fall would have supported people being treated AS people. As for the Bible, Friends, do not accept it as the major source of God's self-revelation and have not from the earliest days.

Actually, you get a wide variety of belief depending on which yearly meeting you're talking about. Each yearly meeting that calls itself Quaker could almost be a distinct denomination - they vary that much.

As for the Bible, Friends, do not accept it as the major source of God's self-revelation and have not from the earliest days.

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Yeah, but even Barclay said that any revelation received had to agree with the scripture or it should be thrown out.

There is some division in the 4 main branches of Quakerism as is common to see in all religous groups at times. I have much room to be mistaken, but I experience two of the branches disapproving of homosexual relationships and this I see as fluid, ever-changing now and not to be the case with all individuals. I don't experience a broad brush statement on Quakers to apply. On the whole as a group, I would say I have seen comitted relationships important to them, that each person is an equal.

Per the Bible, many many Friends still deem this important and vital to read daily. It is the Living Word to be read and applied to ones life experience as well as open to on-going revelation. Yes, there are Friends out there that do agree with Barclay's theology of any revelation should agree and not go against scripture.
It is true that these branches are fairly according to geographic location. However at the same time, it cannot be said that there will not be found a "Conservative Christian Quaker" within a Liberal meeting worshipping in unprogrammed worship together in unity. Not as often the case, to see the opposite.
I know this is an older thread, but hope some thing here may be of interest.

Jan Lyn Lewis
Spiritual Director