Free,
I am not even going to waste my time responding to your post in detail, because anyone can clearly see what the Holy Word of God has to say about commandment keeping, and you are obviously denying what God's word has to say about it.
On the contrary. God's word does not direct new covenant Christians to go back to the old covenant.
Why should anyone bother arguing with you over this?
Then don't argue. Discuss. Show me that you keep what you say you keep. Otherwise, stop making claims that aren't true.
Furthermore, you don't even take what people say at face value. Instead, you read meaning into what they say, and thus bear false witness against them (this is obvious in your response to me).
Do you or do you not break the 10 commandments you claim can be kept? How is this 'reading into' what you said?
I can tell you that I don't believe we are made righteous by human works until I am blue in the face. But you will still insist that I am saying we are made righteous by works simply because I believe God has the power to deliver us from sin.
How you arrive at this conclusion makes absolutely no sense at all, and that is why it is futile to discuss such things with you.
Your own words arrive at this conclusion. You claim to not be saved by works/law-keeping, then claim that you can be lost by works/law-breaking. You claim the 10 commandments can be kept, but when I ask you if you break them you say it's 'futile to discuss such things with me'. You're statements are at contradiction with each other.
Not only does God 'have' the power to deliver us from our sin (sin-nature), he has already done so, and all who, by faith, believe in Jesus for their salvation have already had sin destroyed for them.
"But now God has shown us a
different way of being right in his sight--
not by obeying the law but by the way promised in the Scriptures long ago.
We are made right in God's sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. And we all can be saved in this same way, no matter who we are or what we have done.
For all have sinned; all fall short of God's glorious standard. Yet now God in his gracious kindness declares us
not guilty. He has done this
through Christ Jesus, who has freed us by taking away our sins. For God sent Jesus to
take the punishment for our sins and to
satisfy God's anger against us. We are
made right with God when
we believe that Jesus shed his blood, sacrificing his life for us. God was being entirely fair and just when he did not punish those who sinned in former times. And he is entirely fair and just in this present time when he declares sinners to be right in his sight because they believe in Jesus.
Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because
our acquittal is not based on our good deeds. It is based on our faith. So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law." Rom 3:21, 28
"So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. For the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you through Christ Jesus from the power of sin that leads to death.
The law of Moses could not save us, because of our sinful nature. But God put into effect a
different plan to save us. He sent his own Son in a human body like ours, except that ours are sinful.
God destroyed sin's control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins. He did this so that the requirement of the law would be fully accomplished for us who no longer follow our sinful nature but instead follow the Spirit." Rom 8:1-4
If you weren't a former SDA pastor I would be more patient with you.
Why? What does that have to do with anything?
But you ought to know better than to speak of the Ten Commandments and the Old Covenant as though they are one and the same (meaning you should have been taught how to properly exegete scripture).
I was taught in the SDA school system, and I agree, I should have been taught better. They don't teach it right, which is how false doctrines are formed in the first place.
Eila has already clearly shown that the covenant made with Israel (not gentiles) was the 10 commandments, which were kept in the ark of the 'COVENANT'. The Bible tells us this in many places. I know why you wish to deny this, also because I was taught it in the SDA school system.
Moreover, you ought to know better than to deny the fact that the NT makes it very clear that God's people are still required to keep His commandments. There is plenty of evidence in the NT for this. You just simply choose to ignore it.
I used to believe that John was referring to the 10 commandments too (it's how SDA's teach it). But you will not be able to show this because it's simply not in the text. If it were we wouldn't be having this discussion. You must make many assumptions to arrive at this conclusion, the first of which is that Jesus did not do what he said he would, fulfill the law. You also assume that John is speaking of the 10 while ignoring the fact that he identifies the commands he's referring to in the very same book.