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Lot of good stuff on here. I'm new so im gonna just jump in. Im probably gonna throw you a lot of random stuff.. thats just how i work and it might be a good way of intrducing myself.

We learn from the bible that we are woderfully and fearfully made. That God considers the individual as unique and with high price considering He shed his blood for us. We learn that even in the womb, He already knew us. With that said and in light of the many chruch stock answers you get for problems that really have no answers, being this unique can make things kinda sticky.

We are no doubt made with great design! Look at an anatomy book if this ever comes in question for you. In our uniqueness however, can make a shared illness with exact properties, act differently from one person another. This, among other reasons, is why cancer is so baffling at times. Bipolar is no different.

Bottom line is that the cause of bipolar is really original sin. We live in a fallen world. Thats why we die. For me, it works to keep that part of things very simple. To keep God that simple for that matter. There are enough complicated things in my life already then to have to deal with complicating the very simple truths of God. So how did i get bipolar? I've heard the possibilties, but i really don't care about the "why" anymore. No more than I care about firguring out quantum physics. I would be wasting time and the limited energy I get with this disease.

Instead I try to focus my energies on the things that I can control. Medication. Behavior. Ownership.

Medication is not optional and I don't care who you are or who you think you are. If the meds you are on now are not working, then call your doctor (use the emergency line) and get it changed. This is your lifeline!!! Thinking im being over the top? 1 in 5 bipolars kill themselves. A lot of cancers have a better success rate than that. If your not on your meds, its the same as killing yourself slowly in front of your loved ones who stand by helplessly and watch your destruction. This with me is non-negotiable.

It is not wrong or sin to be ill. I know very well at times that it feels that way. Its hard to reconsile your emotions or behavior at times with the love of Christ or the truth of God. But we are responsible for our behavior, and our actions do have consiquences whether we are ill or not. Which leads me to ownership...

Ownership of the illness and actions and behavior. I know the biggest break through that i had was when i understood this was mine. For years i balked at the idea that it was my responsibility, but I can say that my freedom started wehn I made it my own. I don't mean this in a blame the victim sort of way, my point is finer than that. When you start to own the illness/disease that you have and the behaviors and actions that go with, people around will respond to that. They see your effort and your willingness for management. It's hard--no lie. It requires changing thinking patterns and habbits. For me started when i got up each morning and siad "God, I have faith in you!" "I dont know how, but you can teach me." then i would go to the mirror and tell my self that I liked me and that i was doing a good job. It tasted like vomit at first, but if I could lie to myself all those years telling myself I was worthless, the mathematically and truthfully I could equally tell myself i was worth something.

Clear your head about what you think you know about God from all that you've learned. You have to seperate from that and start with a clean slate. Dont worry, God is on autopilot and knows what you are going through. I remember having to understand that my heart beated just like everyone elses and my lungs breathed just like most do. I was a human being, and in my humanity, my human condition, I learned that i was a child of God. Not because 20+ years of christianity told me so. Not because of faith. But Because, my head was clearer and my soul was hungry and in a moment of clarity, I was reminded that my body functions like a human, just like it was created to do, and with that I can see that I am wonderfully and fearfully made and that even in the womb, God knew me.

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1. taking meds vs. putting them off
2. Thinking correctly vs. giving in to lies
3. It's only in my head vs. this is real.
4. Sleep between 12am and 6am vs. staying up all night.
5. the holy spirit intercedes on my behalf in front of the throne, vs. god is some cosmic killjoy out to get me.
6. I'm sick and need comfort from me, vs. trying to get it from someone else.
7. I'm sick and need peace vs. I hate you the diabolical loser you are.


and then something i heard a long time ago when i was young and in VBS.

8. You are special, because God doesn't make junk!!!

seth
 
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radiochic said:
It's nice to know that there are people out there who suffer from this like I do. It's hard for me to talk about but I came across this site through the Ottawa Citizen, and the posts you guys have written, in a way, ease the pain. It gives me hope that I will get better, hopefully sooner than later.


I'm not sure if it gets better. This is a progessive illness after all. You do gain perspective however. I know personally i'd take perspective over better. I crave wisdom, not to be puffed up, but so that I can take whatever comes my way with a perspective that leads to pease

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Kaiya said:
Music, watching certain anime, reading harry potter and being online calms me down, there was a time when nothing would help me.

lol, I forgot to say hello to everyone, :wave:


Yeah, im a world of warcraft junkie. many hours spent there!
 
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goldenviolet said:
:hug: i should add this. came up in a conversation...

i have learned for the most part what to do. how to keep myself in balance. when stress keeps me from being ok, and it comes down to keeping myself safe, i get help from people that are supportive... and i know everybody at the local phyciatric crisis center :blush: ... i just do whatever i need to, to stay safe, and help me cope.

I don't know it this applies but something i picked up about safty. Dealing with aniety as well as bipolar I find this tool very useful.

No where in the world are we safe! The threat is equal no matter where you are. So, by extention, to the degree that we are unsafe, we are equally safe. If its equally dangerous everywhere, then its equally safe anywhere.

As a post script, you have to love math. it averages everything out. If "X" amount of bad happens to us, then, by chaos theory then, "X" of good must happen. Im not a math major, but the rules of probabilty bring the odds to the middle. However, if you have the Creator on your side, then that's like armor +10 in RPG terms.

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shadrach_ said:
Heh, right now all I do is try to stay on my meds; thats harder than almost anything.

Do it! I don't want to cross you, but your meds are the first thing you can control. Don't whine, don't stray. It is all in your power. And thank Jesus Christ on your knees that it isnt 1860 or something and you are now locked away in an asylum. God works through meds just like he works through miracles. I don't negotiate with people who will not take their meds!

Love to you--i hope you see that!

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I'ddie4him said:
My comfort food ???
I have so many. :D :D :D
My main way of coping and dealing with things is cooking.
I tend to be quite creative in the kitchen.

Red whine in the skillet---serious!!! try it! fry up some lunch meat. (roast beef, ham, turkey and bologna) add american cheese, and shredded cheeses of choice. toast bread (preferably on same skillet) and add heiz 57 sauce.

your welcome
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Phasefree said:
What helps me stay even?

--prayer & reading God's word or other spiritual writings
--going to worship services
--Going to bed and getting up at the same time every day
--sticking to a schedule and doing things at the same time each day
--lifting weights, running and power walking
--avoiding too much sugar
--reading something casual, like a music or gaming magazine
--plucking on my guitar
--playing video games



ok, my interest is up---what are you playing these days(video games) and what are you working on (guitar).

I have two taylor accoustics. best 3K i ever spent.
 
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wayfaringstranger said:
Well, I usually don't talk about it but I'm bi-polar. I've been getting treatment for it for thirty years now. I've had everything from shock treatments to therapy. I'm doing pretty well with a combination of medication and therapy. It works pretty well most of the time and I'm able to hide it pretty well. I don't talk about it because most people don't understand. They would just kinda look down on me or just feel sorry for me. I don't want that. Being bi-polar doesn't make me any less human than any one else. I meet plenty of people in worse shape than me and don't even know it. I've kinda just learned to deal with it in my own way

God bless your precious heart!!! Youve walked and been there. YOu are not on your own though and people who are older can see now that it's more in the mainstream. I am 33 and now have a label for what i have felt my whole life--even though ive only hade the label for 6 years. you are not less human, you are the epitomy of what is human. God bless you!

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Shalia said:
Am I the only one that *can't* do prayer or read the Bible when manic?


I don't anyone really can. I think we want to say we can, but God becomes abstract and there is nothing that we can do about. I believe also that God understands this.

Can you imgaine God saying, "Oh no! Shalia can't pray to me today! What will we do? My angels are rendered useless and my powers have been depleated!! If only Shalia could pray, then I could be God again!!!"

Just perspective


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Alive again said:
BTW Comfort Food

This has always been my medicine of choice for any mood or insecurity (self medicating) I have!!! Could explain the 260#'s I used to weigh!!! Finally felt good enough to begin the journey of dealing with that problem, but this coping style is, for me, a very difficult habit to break!!! I am at about 165 and shooting for normal weight at my height of about 135.

I wish i had some bright answer for this. I know with the meds i take (eskalith) i have put on some pounds myself. I also know that with depression, the fast food became a lot easier. I dont mean to say that is your circumstance, but now that I have eliminated that and cook all the time now, the weight has gotten more to where i would like it.
 
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sethiroth104 said:
radiochic said:
It's nice to know that there are people out there who suffer from this like I do. It's hard for me to talk about but I came across this site through the Ottawa Citizen, and the posts you guys have written, in a way, ease the pain. It gives me hope that I will get better, hopefully sooner than later.


I'm not sure if it gets better. This is a progessive illness after all. You do gain perspective however. I know personally i'd take perspective over better. I crave wisdom, not to be puffed up, but so that I can take whatever comes my way with a perspective that leads to pease

Seth
It is Progressive when untreated, right?
 
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sethiroth104 said:
Learned today that my wife is pre-cancerous in her cervix.
Seth, I can only imagine how frightened you both are. Please know that you are both so fortunate to have found this early. There is a reason why the medical community harps on yearly exams. Your wife will now be going every 6 months. There are treatment options. Our bodies and lifestyles are not as God intended, thus we develop disease. How grateful I am that God, in His grace, has, does and will heal us. I will be praying for you both that God shows his love to you in her healing.

On a personal note ... complementary or alternative medicine - when well researched and intelligently applied can be very helpful as an adjuct therapy to the procedure that she will be having. She can boost her immune system with diet and excercise. there is a very good book called "prescription for nutritional healing" available. It is the size of a phone book, is located in every health food store and is the starting place of choice if you are new to complementary approaches.
I am in no way suggesting that she not receive the treatment from the OB/GYN. She must have the procedure they suggest and that is not optional. Lifestyle changes are secondary but as important.

With deep concern,
Janice
 
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