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Serious Problem in Seminary...

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JasonPB

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Hello,

This is my first post on Christianforums.com so I hope this is the right place for this message. Well...where to begin?

In 2003, I got the call to serve God. Since that day my call has remained strong and I thank the Lord everyday for the chance to serve Him. I entered seminary last fall. I was a commuter last year but this year I live on campus. I came here to be among a community of believers. I thought living among devout people would strengthen my faith and teach me how to be a good minister.

Well, here are some highlights of the "Christian" community I've had the pleasure of living in this past semester:

- Two students expelled for drug abuse

- One student facing disciplinary action for confessing that he was a victim of child abuse in (this is unbelievable) a course on pastoral care of people who have experienced child abuse.

- A Student Body president that refuses to hear that our on campus community is crumbling, and responds to calls for change with hostility, shouting, and smear campaigns against those who "oppose" her.

- An "inclusive' community where people who profess Christ are excluded. I sat in a class where a student was laughed at for suggesting that the Holy Spirit guided the authors of the New Testament canon. I can tolerate and in fact enjoy hearing different opinions, but what is the message sent to students at this "inclusive" school when their beliefs are judged to be ridiculous or even offensive simply because they aren't in line with the majority?

- An Orwellian absence of outlets for student opinion, with the only news source being the "E-News" service edited and issued by the administration. Already limited to only event announcements and prayer requests, new proposals (by the above named Student Body president) will forbid any kind of editorial comments. Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I do work for the Web Team and my supervisor is an awesome person and a good Christian. But it's a worrying reality that as of right now, there is no other outlet for student opinion or news.

- An on-campus community left to care for itself, with no on-campus chaplain, no chapel to pray in except during normal business hours, and no access to free pastoral counseling. The result? Students who either lock themselves in their room and hide, flee campus as often as they can, or resort to drinking, drugs, or sex to "care" for themselves.

For several weeks now, I've been a part of this travesty and felt a growing sense of the cause being the absence of something vital. I realized a few days ago what that it was: Christ. This is a seminary, but Christ is no part of this community. Christ abides in the fellowship of believers who love one another and build each other up. How can he live among people who, by and large, tear each other down at every turn? How can he abide in a place that is overwhelmed by suspicion, intolerance, and defeat? We have not invited the Holy Spirit to dwell among us and bring to us the fruits of the Spirit. We have not committed ourselves to unconditional love and devotion to God and to each other. We have no covenant to guide us to righteous living.

I don't know what to make of this. I know that I'm tired of fighting, and thinking of transferring to another seminary. Would that be retreat? Is there hope for this place, an ideal worth fighting for? There are good people here, though they are few. Many of them are thinking of leaving, too. At least two are transferring out at the end of this semester.

What is the right path? I'm not sure if the problems we're having here are unique to this school, or if this happens in all seminaries.

Any opinions are gratefully accepted. Please pray for me and especially for the community.

-Jason
 

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Jason PB,
I am praying for you. It makes me very:cry: to hear about all the problems that are going on at the seminary you are attending. I will be praying for you and all the students and staff and the president, dean and everybody else. I will be:prayer: that God will open their eyes to see what they are doing is not Godly. I will be praying a hedge of protection around all of you.
I am praying for all of you.
 
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Dear Jesus,

I pray for Jason as he attends this seminary. Please give him wisdom in what to do. Are they all like this Lord, with Satan battling for our future pastors lives right there in the classroom? Please direct Jason's path and Lord may he have godly men to speak to about this problem. In Jesus name I pray. Amen
 
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Oh Jason, i'm so sorry you are going through this. I pray the LORD will show you exactly where He wants you. My brother's a pastor and where he went was just what you would assume it would be, for the most part of course. You are right to be outraged, I pray the LORD will move you to a seminary where you will truly learn of Him and from those who love Him with their whole heart. I ask the LORD to bless you with strength, perseverence, comfort and peace as He leads you thru this difficult time. Blessings.
in Him, Leslie
 
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Grace and peace,

Many thanks for the prayers so far. I have to say, the Spirit is telling me that part of the problem might be the denomination that makes up most of this seminary, and the one that I'm a part of - the UCC. We also have a lot of ABC students and UUA. I'm not sure...but maybe some of these problems are related to the theology of my denomination and these others?

If I may add one small additional request, could you pray for God to put my feet on the right path, whether that would be to continue in the UCC or to go elsewhere?

Thank you again and God bless! -Jason
 
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Hi Jason----there are a number of questions for you to ponder.Seminary is supposed to be a place for those called of God into full-time ministry to be better prepared in ministering to other christians to help support,equip,encourage and challenge them in their efforts to be the people of God in whatever circumstances they find themselves in--work,home,etc.God has called you into ministry, but has he called you there?Your description paints a picture of a place that is a mission field, not a center for christian training.Revival breaks out amongst places of spiritual deadness when a single individual or group of christians commit themselves to prayer believing that the God who created this world can break down the barriers of hearts hardened by sin and bring a renewal of faith or a beginning of faith in God.Can you not get together those others of like purpose in that seminary to commit themselves to intense prayer to claim that seminary for God?Are there any local churches nearby that could provide some spiritual support--ie encouragement/prayer?I remember the story of a 19th century frontier preacher who came to a town known for its wild nature--drunkeness,prostitution,fighting etc.Today the urge would be to protest for change when we see things we object to around us--this preacher drew aside to a hollowed out tree trunk and went into intense prayer for those who lived in that town determined to stay there until something happened.God heard his prayer,conviction of sin came upon those in that town,revival broke out,taverns closed down.In the past people would weep in prayer for those seperated from God.Where is that compassion today amongst Christians?Why do many Christians who say they believe in the God who created this world only pray "safe prayers"--ie praying with limited expectations that God will answer for things that can be accomplished by human effort instead of praying for things that only God can bring about--what is impossible for God?We often limit what we see Him doing around us by our lack of faith, not His inability to do those things.We operate in our concept of time--not His--Adoniah Judson faithfully served God 12 years in Burma[Myammar}before he saw the first person come to faith in Christ.How often Christians can give up in days or weeks when not seeing any response to their prayers.We often want easy faith that requires little of us--that is not the faith I see in the Bible--a faith that required commitment and sacrifice.I will pray for you and that seminary.--in Christ--Terry
 
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