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saveroom

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I should have never have married my husband. I cancelled the wedding twice, if I'd just cancelled it one more time, I'm sure I never would have married him.
I left my husband twice temporarily because he wouldn't hold down a job. There's a verse in the Old Testament about the husband not meeting or supporting the wife's needs of food, shelter, etc, that this is grounds for separation. Since we have been seperated, he has not paid for any of my bare necessities. I left him when I got pregnant at 39 (first time) and went to my parents so there would be someone around to "nurture" me through the pregnancy. I never wanted to have a child. My dad and I were close, really close, practically inseperable. The day I married it hurt my relationship with Dad really bad. When I came back after finding out I was pregnant I told him that I was never going back to Tom. He still wasn't holding down jobs and I wished I never married him. I reconciled my relationship with my father and 1 month later my father died. He was extremely fit and had a totally unexpected heart attack. I watched him die and became completely hysterical. That night I was admitted to a psychiatric ward because I wanted to kill myself.
In my irrational thinking, I thought my husband was happy that my father had died because that would "make" me go back to him. My entire family pushed me to go back to him.

Well enough about history. It says in the bible in I Cor 7:10,11 seems to allow for a wife to leave her husband, while other commentators say that Paul was writing this to the people at that time who were already seperated and so he was giving them instructions about what to do.
I am mentally ill: I have obsessive-compulsive disorder from my youth, when my father died I took it so bad that I developed post-traumatic shock disorder (like people coming home from a war) which led to having a boderline personality (AKA Extreme Emotionality Disorder). When my daughter was born I was so happy I became manic and then had severe depression so then I was diagnosed as being bipolar.
Now 2 years later with proper medication I am relatively stable but too much stress causes me to drop into depression.
My husband and I get along well. We go to chuch together. I meet his sexual needs. The only thing that seperates us is that we don't live in the same house. We get along a lot better living seperately. But I feel all this guilt about being seperated, that it is a sin. But if I went back to living with him I'd spend most of my time in the psychiatric ward for stress-induced despression and suicidality.

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Are you looking for an excuse to divorce him, even though he has not cheated on you? If he was beating you up I could see a reason to be separated. Aside from that, you are just bringing your marriage closer to ruin by keeping yourselves apart.

-chris320
 
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saveroom said:
Well enough about history. It says in the bible in I Cor 7:10,11 seems to allow for a wife to leave her husband,
This actually made me laugh out loud when I looked it up as you had the answer to your question all along. I Cor 7, 10 says, "The Lord himself has said: A wife shall not leave her husband."

Bless you and your marriage.
 
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Does anyone out there read both verses in 1 Corinthians 7:10,11. It says A wife should not leave her husband but if she does she is to remain as a chaste woman or be reconciled to her husband. Which is exactly what I'm doing. I'm not looking for anyone else, I'm will never seek a divorce. As a matter of fact since we've been seperated, our relationship is better than it was when we lived together.
Normally when you think of seperated people, you think of people who are angry at eachother, headed for a divorce, etc. We're not like that. But he is very dependent on me and I don't have the strength to be his support system. I can't even support myself emotionally. I've been seeing a Christian Counselor for 20 years trying to deal with this or that. When I married, I had in mind a strong man I could turn to for emotional support, not the other way around. He's a bit mentally ill himself.
 
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Hmmmm....... everything that I read about a marriage points to a couple living together, him providing for his family, and the wife taking on a nurturing role based more within the home. I've yet to come across where they have two separately established homes. Trials in life are supposed to cause us to praise God through our difficulties, and to solidify us more as a couple, not be used as excuses to stay separated. Really though, it reminds me of when Jesus was asked about divorce, and He makes it clear that God hates divorce and only made a concession because the hearts of the people were hard. So, when I read 1 Corinthians 7:10,11, that is what I see. I see the will of God, and then I see His concession to people who decide that they will not do what he wants of them.

Oh, and just as a side note, I'm not trying to make light of your mental illness. I understand how difficult it is to have a prosperous marriage when battling your own demons. As a person diagnosed as bi-polar who also has a propensity toward 'cutting', I understand how mental illness can impact a relationship. Still, even for the difficulties, we have obligations and joyful duties to perform for the Lord. Mental illness shouldn't be used as an excuse to shirk responsibility, not when it seems that you are saying that you are now perfectly capable of caring for yourself and are in your right mind (as much as we can be, eh?).

In closing, I didn't provide scripture references to all of my statements, but I surely can if for one reason or another you deem it necessary. :)
 
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I have to agree with saveroom on this one. My wife asked me to move out because my personality disorder was causing me to manipulate her without even knowing I was doing it. She didn't feel safe. I had no idea she was hurting this badly. I was basically oblivious because all I cared about was meeting my needs and my unhealed hurts. I think separation has been good for our marriage so far, even though I still freak out quite often.

Yes, the mutually nurturing relationship is the model that God desires us to follow, but we don't all have to follow the same road to get there. I think that permanent separation is not God's will, but separating for a time to prevent hurts from piling up too far for the marriage to bear is ok.
 
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AirForceTeacher said:
I have to agree with saveroom on this one. My wife asked me to move out because my personality disorder was causing me to manipulate her without even knowing I was doing it. She didn't feel safe. I had no idea she was hurting this badly. I was basically oblivious because all I cared about was meeting my needs and my unhealed hurts. I think separation has been good for our marriage so far, even though I still freak out quite often.

Yes, the mutually nurturing relationship is the model that God desires us to follow, but we don't all have to follow the same road to get there. I think that permanent separation is not God's will, but separating for a time to prevent hurts from piling up too far for the marriage to bear is ok.
The Bible also says wives and husbands are not to withold their affections from one another. Do you pop in for a quickie when the urge arises and go back to your pad afterwards?
 
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No, I don't, but that's because some of the pain I've caused her is sexual in nature, and she has some baggage in this area from childhood. That quickie that meets my physical needs would hurt her. I'm in the military. We've been separated for over three months before when there was no way I could have a 'quickie.' I think I can control myself for her if I can do it for the Air Force.
 
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AirForceTeacher said:
No, I don't, but that's because some of the pain I've caused her is sexual in nature, and she has some baggage in this area from childhood. That quickie that meets my physical needs would hurt her. I'm in the military. We've been separated for over three months before when there was no way I could have a 'quickie.' I think I can control myself for her if I can do it for the Air Force.
The pain you caused her and her baggage are buzz words of this day and age which everyone in secular society will nod their head solemnly and agree with you on. Such things are not of the Bible so I don't nod my head in sympathy for you. I look at my Bible and hear what you say and nod in sad understanding of your self imposed exile from your marriage. I see a man and woman trying to do the right thing and work out issues by living apart only finding themselves spending MOST of their time adjusting to separate lives. I know it hurts now but don't worry, time will take the edge off of it for you and her and you will move on. There is a reason why married couples are not to withold affections and are to stick together per the Bible. The Bible is not so outdated and disposable as many of you think.
 
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