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I know exactly what you mean, Raphael. One one hand, big business wants to take Christmas and make "Consume-mas" and drive folks into debt; and on the other hand, small minority groups that scream "tolerance" when it suits their needs want to strip God from every aspect of American culture because they're "offended". It really makes me sick sometimes.
 
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Isn't it amazing that something so innocent draws so much ire, even from some in christian ciricles . . .

We can see what is really important by that which the enemy of our souls chooses to attack . .

Coming from a Protestant perspective of 30 years, the argument that Christmas is really of pagan origin is not a new one . . . . I found myself wondering at times. But now, after spending a little time researching this, I see how absolutely important a celebration it is.

Being attacked from so many quarters as it is today, it is a very important celebration for us today.


The issue in NYC would be laughable if it were not so sad . . . the view expressed is so old and antiquated, I can hardly believe that any thinking person would even attempt to assert that Christ's birth is not a historical event.



Peace in Him!
 
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Call the ACLU. Their supporters always tell me that they stand for the rights of all Americans. If that's true, they should be all over this.

I'm gonna email them about it and then hold my breath waiting for their support.
 
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ufonium2 said:
Call the ACLU. Their supporters always tell me that they stand for the rights of all Americans. If that's true, they should be all over this.

I'm gonna email them about it and then hold my breath waiting for their support.

Are you saying this tongue in cheek?

The ACLU is behind all this Christian bashing. The judge who tried to prevent the 10 commandments from being removed in Alabama was just fired from his job.

With President Bush being prevented from appointing judges on the courts, our courts are becoming very liberal and are reinterpreting the U.S. Constitutions. Not only that, the liberals want the U.S. Courts to be subservient to the United Nations, where we will have no religious liberties whatsoever.

Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us and save us.
 
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Raphael said:
this anti-Christ sentiment growing is really getting on my nerves...

i'll be praying for this, but it seems to just keep getting worse and worse...

Hey, if the folks at ACLU object to Christmas trees - change it to German - Tannenbaum. Then we won't irritate the securalists, after all English is about 50% German anyway.

This whole idea of the separation of Church and State is getting absolutely vicious.

Those who believe in the rapture have missed the point. We are already in the Tribulation. Let him who has ear hear, and let him who has eyes see.

Lord Jesus Christ save us.
 
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jeffthefinn said:
Why would one trouble themselves over any of this? It does not matter to me at all if the government supports Christmas or not, or if it supports the faith or not. There was no room for the Lord during the first Nativity either.
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It is are rights as Christians that are being censored.The majority in this country are supposed to rule,not special interest groups(ACLU),or small fringe minorities(Gay and Lesbians).Who is speaking for us??We have an obligation to resist evil,in whatever form it takes.How dare these monsters, that would take away the most amazing story ever told. Hiding behind some governmental pretense to do it.Soon it will be a hate crime to speak out agianst gay lifestyles,what is next?Sueing Christians for wearing crucifixes,because it offends someones sensibilities?I hope not on my watch!
 
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Yeah, my tongue was definitely in cheek, hence the "holding my breath waiting for their support" comment. I really am going to write them about it though. That way, on the off chance that they actually respond to me, I can save the rejection letter as proof that they have no interest at all in the liberties of the average American.
 
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djns9437 said:
It is are rights as Christians that are being censored.The majority in this country are supposed to rule,not special interest groups(ACLU),or small fringe minorities(Gay and Lesbians).Who is speaking for us??We have an obligation to resist evil,in whatever form it takes.How dare these monsters, that would take away the most amazing story ever told. Hiding behind some governmental pretense to do it.Soon it will be a hate crime to speak out agianst gay lifestyles,what is next?Sueing Christians for wearing crucifixes,because it offends someones sensibilities?I hope not on my watch!
Actually if you ask me, the Christmas that the world knows has little to do with the events that we remember. Buying frenzies has little to do with the Birth of Our Lord. My rights have not been violated as yet, and so what if they are? I do not take comfort in the fact that the State affirms or denies what I know is true. My life as a Christian is to aquire the Holy Spirit by prayer, fasting, and giving alms. That I can do, even if the government outlaws it.
Jeff the Finn
 
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