See ya folks

[tall73]

I will see you all in the Debate section I reckon. I had been mostly posting here, but since my main goal is to discuss doctrine, and I can not longer debate or teach here, I will be moving on.

 

[Mankin]

Why can't you?

 

[Adventist Dissident]

just another reason for a social subforum

 

[tall73]

Why can't you?

Your recently passed FSG.


The Progressive SDA subforum is limited to debate among those Seventh-day Adventists who do not agree with all 28 Fundamental Beliefs. Non-members may only post in fellowship

 

[NightEternal]

Sorry about that Tall.

But, as you well know, the behavior of certain Trads has made the implementing of that new FSG necessary. Classic case of a few spoiling it for the rest.

I wish we could make an exception for you, but we are bound by the rule.

 

[Lebesgue]

I will see you all in the Debate section I reckon. I had been mostly posting here, but since my main goal is to discuss doctrine, and I can not longer debate or teach here, I will be moving on.

Tall, due to the new rules I'll be joining you there.

Shalom,

Lebesgue

 

[tall73]

Sorry about that Tall.

But, as you well know, the behavior of certain Trads has made the implementing of that new FSG necessary. Classic case of a few spoiling it for the rest.

I wish we could make an exception for you, but we are bound by the rule.

I get it. Just explaining my planned absence.

 

[Mankin]

I am sorry tall. But it had to be passed. We will certainly not report you if you wish to post here tho.

 

[CaDan]

I'm still keeping a seat warm for you on Team Joy . . . .

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

Well Tall can certainly fellowship here. And that means that he can add his ideas to conversations. It seems to me if we agree that his comments fall under the umbrella of fellowship he can say whatever he would like within the regular CF rules.

Fellowship is a wonderfully wide term you know. I suppose starting a teaching thread would not be covered under fellowship but most conversation of the various threads would.

Fellowship definition:
1.the condition or relation of being a fellow: the fellowship of humankind. 2.friendly relationship; companionship: the fellowship of father and son. 3.community of interest, feeling, etc. 4.communion, as between members of the same church. 5.friendliness. 6.an association of persons having similar tastes, interests, etc. 7.a company, guild, or corporation.

• The Progressive SDA subforum is limited to debate among those Seventh-day Adventists who do not agree with all 28 Fundamental Beliefs. Non-members may only post in fellowship.

So it seems to me we can say who is in fellowship with us and I say That Tall has for most all of his posts been in complete fellowship with the Progressive SDA sub-forum. I would say the same is true for Sophia.

Would any Progressive Sub-forum members disagree?

 

[NightEternal]

No disagreement here.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

In fact we might want to take the time to acknowledge some other regulars as eligible for continued fellowship such as IceDragon and Lebesque (I can't remember how he spells it). Any others we can think of?

 

[NightEternal]

I suppose MVA would be fine as long as he promises to cut out the Trad rhetoric while he is in here. I could also tolerate Red, but he will get the smackdown if he tries any of his TSDA funny stuff.

Freeindeed, Annie, Avonia, Telaquapacky, Crimson, Adventtruth, Eila, Byfaithalone, Andrew, Windmill, Pythons, BGMCFAR, Digdeep, JohnT...

I know there is more, but I don't remember off-hand right now.

We'll just have to take it on a case by case basis.

 

[Sophia7]

Thanks, guys. CF does have a pretty strict definition of fellowship, though:

DEFINITION OF A FELLOWSHIP POST

1) It is not debate or apologetics (defense).

Those who disagree with a congregation’s Statement of Faith will not discuss reasons for or against any subject being discussed on this sub-forum. This includes questions that essentially are rebuttal or argumentative in nature. Those who disagree will not engage in theological discussions that defend their particular point of view on scriptural, theological, doctrinal, social, or political issues.

2) It is not answering questions or teaching.

Only a member of the congregational forum may give answers to and instruct on doctrinal questions. While there may be many very good ideas on the subject from non-members, they may not give instruction. Earnest questions are always welcome, from anyone.

3) What Fellowship is:

Essentially fellowship is defined as the discussion of topics of association, of companionship - i.e. discussions of things like friends, family, work..... these topics are fellowship. Posts that offer friendship would certainly be described as fellowship.

http://christianforums.com/t6899690

So I'll limit my posts here accordingly. Exceptions shouldn't be made for some people but not others.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

1) It is not debate or apologetics (defense).

Those who disagree with a congregation’s Statement of Faith will not discuss reasons for or against any subject being discussed on this sub-forum. This includes questions that essentially are rebuttal or argumentative in nature. Those who disagree will not engage in theological discussions that defend their particular point of view on scriptural, theological, doctrinal, social, or political issues.

Our statement of belief is that we disagree with one or more of the 28 fundamentals. So this one should not be a problem.

2) It is not answering questions or teaching.

Only a member of the congregational forum may give answers to and instruct on doctrinal questions. While there may be many very good ideas on the subject from non-members, they may not give instruction. Earnest questions are always welcome, from anyone.

This would be the only real restriction as I said before a teaching thread would not fall under the term fellowship.

3) What Fellowship is:

Essentially fellowship is defined as the discussion of topics of association, of companionship - i.e. discussions of things like friends, family, work..... these topics are fellowship. Posts that offer friendship would certainly be described as fellowship.

Here there is a lot in common with former Adventists with the Progressive SDA's because in the main we are an association of people who have a desire to see various reform within the SDA church. And frankly that will be where most of the other Progressive Adventist visitors will come from. Because there are a lot of former Adventists who still care about the Adventist church and are in complete harmony with Progressive Adventist ideas.

So even with CF's definition it would seem that our former adventists friends can still be allowed to post here, that their fellowship would also include ideas on their interpretation of Bible verses, Adventist and church history and ideas concerning future methods of dealing with other Christians and unchristian s alike.

 

[moicherie]

I think if you start to pick and choose who can discuss here outside the fellowship rule then that is a slippery slope to disaster. No point having rules and then trying to bend them to make exceptions. I will miss Tall and some others pov on things we discuss here but we had to take this step cos give some people an inch and they took more than a mile they took light years....

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

I think if you start to pick and choose who can discuss here outside the fellowship rule then that is a slippery slope to disaster. No point having rules and then trying to bend them to make exceptions. I will miss Tall and some others pov on things we discuss here but we had to take this step cos give some people an inch and they took more than a mile they took light years....

That is exactly why we can't let those who came here to make trouble get away with closing down this sub-forum. It is their desire that we don't talk with former Adventists. It is not our desire to exclude the former Adventist.

And this is not a slippery slope because the Progressives here will be able to say whether or not a regular person is in fellowship with us.

Progressive Adventists are not united by one statement of beliefs but by an idea of intelligent examination of ideas. And we all know when those who reject such an overriding idea post here. Either from the things they say here or from what they have said in the other forums.

 

[Mankin]

Actually I think Windmill is still an Adventist.

 

[OntheDL]

Tall, due to the new rules I'll be joining you there.

Shalom,

Lebesgue

You have always been welcome to post in the debate forum. But be sure to post with supporting evidence and do so respectfully.

 

[Lebesgue]

You have always been welcome to post in the debate forum. But be sure to post with supporting evidence and do so respectfully.

You will notice that I have "toned it down" a lot.

I don't like being reported and don't want that to happen anymore so I watch what I say.

I know the Trad SDAs on this forum don't like me and that's ok. I don't have anything against them but I can tell they dislike me quite a bit.

So I am just going to do what I can to avoid making them angry at me.

G-d Bless.

Shalom,

Reb