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Second Heaven is Space

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I've been reading some theories that indicate the first heaven is our atmosphere, the second is space and the third the abode of God north of space. This theory is quite popular and advocated by a few well known Christians. The thing that intrigues me is that if the second heaven is space that is also the abode of fallen angels and Satan. Could that explain UFO phenomenon?

The same speakers/authors/evangelists also claim that Lucifer once ruled the world before Adam from heaven but when he fell God destroyed him and the pre adamic race. The spirits of which are demons who's abode is Sheol. The question is does this contradict the previous paragraph? Is Satan in space [the second heaven] or operating from Sheol under the earth? Are demons and fallen angels in Sheol or space. Those angels that slept with women prior to Noah and the flood [which is different to the original pre adamic flood/destruction of the earth] where are they. In chains where? They cannot be part of the original rebellion of Lucifers angels because the would be free in either space or Sheol. Any ideas? I'm confused:confused:
 

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I've been reading some theories that indicate the first heaven is our atmosphere, the second is space and the third the abode of God north of space. This theory is quite popular and advocated by a few well known Christians. The thing that intrigues me is that if the second heaven is space that is also the abode of fallen angels and Satan. Could that explain UFO phenomenon?

Yes.


The same speakers/authors/evangelists also claim that Lucifer once ruled the world before Adam from heaven but when he fell God destroyed him and the pre adamic race.


That theory comes from passages such as Ezekiel 29, which shows him as once being in Eden in a yet unfallen nature. When you read the Genesis account, the garden was "placed" on Earth after man's creation. That leads to the speculation that it existed on the earth prior to man, then removed prior to a 6-day recreation of earth, and then placed again after man was finally created.

And then again in Jeremiah 4 where the whole earth was destroyed and said to be "without form and void" the exact phrase used in Genesis 1:1, at what some suppose to be the recreation event.


The spirits of which are demons who's abode is Sheol. The question is does this contradict the previous paragraph? Is Satan in space [the second heaven] or operating from Sheol under the earth? Are demons and fallen angels in Sheol or space.

It is thought by some the demons are the disembodied nephilim, which is why they seek to possess other bodies, and not the actual fallen angels themselves.


Those angels that slept with women prior to Noah and the flood [which is different to the original pre adamic flood/destruction of the earth] where are they. In chains where? They cannot be part of the original rebellion of Lucifers angels because the would be free in either space or Sheol. Any ideas? I'm confused:confused:

Both Peter and Jude say they are confined in chains (2 Peter 2:4, Jude 6). It's interesting when you consider that Satan is also destined to be bound in chains at some point as these are. Their punishment was for mating with women and generating offspring. In Genesis we are told the offspring of the serpent would bruise the heel of The offspring of the woman (Jesus).

There are some who theorize that as Jesus was a physical offspring of the woman, so will Satans offspring have the same physical similarity, in other words Satan will breed with a woman at some point, and the judgment of such an act is his confinement in chains for a time, just as the same judgment was imposed on those other angels who mated with women in times past.

Again, just theories based on piecing together pictures in scripture.
 
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