Scriptural evidence/support for Real Presence

TwinCrier · Jan 28, 2004

Metanoia02 said:
I know the difference between the two, but why do you differentiate the two when concerning the sacrifice of Christ? Didn't Christ have to die in the flesh to atone for our sins? Or could He have merely just spilled His blood without really dying?

I agree with you on this, but I do not consider His flesh and blood to be separate. In your symbolic understanding of the Lord's Supper do you not celebrate His broken Body (the bread) and His shed blood (the wine) to be of equal significance?

People bleed to death all the time.

Yes, they are of equal sinificance, but they are both symbolic. To worship or pray to bread and wine is not biblical.

ej · Jan 28, 2004

Metanoia02 · Jan 28, 2004

eldermike said:
Stop debating!

I am not debating. I am asking questions and allowing the respondent to explain thier beliefs. I am not presenting my side of the issue.

ej · Jan 28, 2004

Metanoia02 said:
I am not debating. I am asking questions and allowing the respondent to explain thier beliefs. I am not presenting my side of the issue.

Same here.
Just wanting to clarify that what I see... is actually what is believed, and not merely my presumptive imagination.

eldermike · Jan 28, 2004

If you will review this thread you will find the answers to the questions asked. If you will review further your claims of not debating will also fall apart.

I am not asking for your definition of debating.
I am using my definition.

eldermike · Jan 28, 2004

it's been said: symbolic - get over it, move on, or I will warn on the next post.

ej · Jan 28, 2004

I have another question, which I will ask, and as per my previous posts, I will not enter into debate, but accept the answer to my question.

Do Protestants believe that God is REALLY present in church and their homes, or do they pray to Him symbolically?

If He is REALLY present in curch, then why is he not present in the communion bread and wine?

Thanks.

ej · Jan 28, 2004

eldermike said:
it's been said: symbolic - get over it, move on, or I will warn on the next post.

Just as an aside - personally I like to know reasons, as opposed to just one-word answers. I think maybe that's why the discussion carried on.

Bastoune · Jan 28, 2004

TwinCrier said:
To worship or pray to bread and wine is not biblical.

You are absolutely right. But Catholics do not do this.

One question (not to debate): how do protestants view Jesus Christ's role as "a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek"? How do you interpret that Scripture?

eldermike · Jan 28, 2004

Warnings follow this post.

ej · Jan 28, 2004

Okay, no worries, I'll start a new thread to ask my question

eldermike · Jan 28, 2004

I said, move on, i will not allow people to have this thread closed by ignoring me

eldermike · Jan 28, 2004

every post by a non PRE in this thread will recieve a warning

eldermike · Jan 28, 2004

three of them will get you banned

Bulldog · Jan 28, 2004

ej said:
Do Protestants believe that God is REALLY present in church and their homes, or do they pray to Him symbolically?

Of course we beleive in praying to God.

ej said:
If He is REALLY present in curch, then why is he not present in the communion bread and wine?

Well, He REALLY is present in the church. I don't dispute you there. But we believe Jesus spoke symbolically when speaking of communion.

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