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AirPo said:The premise that humans came from apes is not part of evolution. It is part of creatolution, however.
trunks2k said:The issue being taken up with is that someone is portraying Futuyama as not agreeing with ToE. This is an asinine claim to make because Futuyama is a popular* supporter of evolution. To say that Futuyama does not agree with ToE is an outright lie.
Jimmy The Hand said:Carico. Please address the blatant lying that occurred by including Futuyma in a list of non-creation scientists that refute evolution.
Do you not consider lying to be wrong?
Carico said:Excellent post, Jeff. Anybody with any logic can see that apes have bred apes & humans have bred humans all throughout recorded history. So what evoltuionists have to do is then say this happened before recorded history. By the same token I can say that the beast called erapodylius lived before recorded history because I have a Ph.d in science. Then I can find a rock, take it back to my lab, & say that it's the bones of the erapodylius, put it in a Museum and say, "don't touch it". There, that proves it. Then I can make up "scientific" explanations to exlain why just like Tolken did in "Lord Of The Rings." Anything can make sense in the Sci-Fi world, but not in the real world!
As a technicality I agree. But if creationists understood it they wouldn't make the comment in the first place.trunks2k said:Well, to be fair, we ARE apes, so unless humans are the branching species between apes and other primates, and that all other apes descended from humans, then it is a technically accurate statement to say that humans came from apes. But it's an obvious statement. It's like saying that my parents are human.
Carico said:And thousands of scientists trusted Hitler too. We recruited many of them after the war. They were not all mass murders (although the ones who performed experiments on the Jews at concentrations camps were) but VERY easily deceived. Sorry, but again, scientists are just as fallible as the rest of us. But many of them don't think so which is why they publish findings & then find they have to take them back later. This included the scientists who believed Hitler.
wardpossy said:Evolution cannot and never will be proven, it is simply humans trying their hardest to discredit Gods word, Instead of looking for humans to awnser your questions... LOOK AND READ THE BIBLE... the awnsers are already their. The WHOLE truth and nothing but the truth,
JEff
the fact that god is lord has no bearing on the facts about evolutionwardpossy said:Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000.... Oh I know let me guess, you dont need it. For The rest of you, AND YES I AM COPYING AND PASTING THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:http://www.drdino.com/Ministry/250k/index.jsp
Dr. Kent Hovind goes on to state --- The test of any theory is whether or not it provides answers to basic questions. Some well-meaning but misguided people think evolution is a reasonable theory to explain man's questions about the universe. Evolution is not a good theory --- it is just a pagan religion masquerading as science.
Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.
What does it take to get people to understand that GOD IS LORD !!
wardpossy said:Evolution is not a good theory --- it is just a pagan religion masquerading as science.
Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.
What does it take to get people to understand that GOD IS LORD !!
wardpossy said:Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000....
Dr. Kent Hovind goes on to state --- The test of any theory is whether or not it provides answers to basic questions.
I don't know what it would take. I know what deters it though. People who haven't got the faintest clue what they are talking about when they criticize the theory of evolution or science in general and keep propping up falsehoods like evolution=atheism. Yes, I'm talking about you.wardpossy said:What does it take to get people to understand that GOD IS LORD !!
Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000.... Oh I know let me guess, you dont need it. <snip> Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.
Because Hovind set the rules so that it is physically impossible for anyone to prove it. He asks evolutionists to prove atheistic crevolution, not evolution.Thats funny .. if their is so much "Proof" why arent you collecting the $250,000.... Oh I know let me guess, you dont need it. <snip> Dr. Hovind's has offered $250,000 since 1990 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.
Tomk80 said:I don't know what it would take. I know what deters it though. People who haven't got the faintest clue what they are talking about when they criticize the theory of evolution or science in general and keep propping up falsehoods like evolution=atheism. Yes, I'm talking about you.
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