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<blockquote data-quote="Shemjaza" data-source="post: 72305839" data-attributes="member: 146291"><p>The effect was that you casually declared that infinite space as one of your axioms when in the universe today it can be warped and twisted and even created.</p><p></p><p>You axiom is wrong in the current universe, so it's preposterous to declare it as an axiom of the universe's beginning.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know the properties of of infinite mass or energy, and I don't know how they interact with some other greater expanse of potential of new space generated by some other process.</p><p></p><p>I don't know these things, and neither do you.</p><p></p><p>The properties of near infinite density and mass around black holes are mysterious, why on Earth do you feel confident to make declarations about the properties of unknown and possibly unknowable substances of the early universe.</p><p></p><p>My comments about mathematics was to point out that it is not incoherent for things to be both infinite and of a different scale.</p><p>Why?</p><p></p><p>Time itself may be generated by the process of expansion, I don't know. No one is declaring that the singularity that existed at the beginning of the universe was eternal and unchanging, it may not even have had time.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In addition, can you explain how an alternative would function? How does a creator get around the paradoxes around time and space at the begining of the universe?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemjaza, post: 72305839, member: 146291"] The effect was that you casually declared that infinite space as one of your axioms when in the universe today it can be warped and twisted and even created. You axiom is wrong in the current universe, so it's preposterous to declare it as an axiom of the universe's beginning. I don't know the properties of of infinite mass or energy, and I don't know how they interact with some other greater expanse of potential of new space generated by some other process. I don't know these things, and neither do you. The properties of near infinite density and mass around black holes are mysterious, why on Earth do you feel confident to make declarations about the properties of unknown and possibly unknowable substances of the early universe. My comments about mathematics was to point out that it is not incoherent for things to be both infinite and of a different scale. Why? Time itself may be generated by the process of expansion, I don't know. No one is declaring that the singularity that existed at the beginning of the universe was eternal and unchanging, it may not even have had time. In addition, can you explain how an alternative would function? How does a creator get around the paradoxes around time and space at the begining of the universe? [/QUOTE]
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