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I was in middle school, this was about as brilliant a response to expect a 14 year old to give.
The evolution of everything from nothing has no basis in reality.
We share 25% of the same DNA as a daffodil, but we don't share ancestry with daffodils.
Yet let a creationist make a passing reference to evidence being ignored and the evolutionauts lose their minds!
What's wrong with that question?"If humans came from monkeys why are there still monkeys"
You are proposing to make naturalism a state sponsored religion.
Nope. Not buying it. We were "one nation under God" long before you were even thought of.
Our Constitution is based on the premise that all rights come from God.
Our currency says "In God we trust."
Atheists are an excessively vocal 15% minority. Most people realize there is a God. I'm sorry that you don't but it doesn't give you the right to mandate naturalistic indoctrination.
What's wrong with that question?
I see a major difference between:
Q: If humans came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?I see the "if question" ridiculed all the time, and I noticed that Mr. Dawkins, when explaining it, didn't even roll his eyes.
Q: Since humans came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?
Thus the question.The "why are there still monkeys" question gets ridiculed because it demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of biology.
You an alien?I don't know if you're sincere or visiting us from Landover Baptist.
It's not wicked so much as irresponsible to deliberately impair a child's education by teaching them the pseudoscience of creationism to supplant the science they need to learn to become scientifically literate citizens.
If Christians had to be sneaky to teach truth, that is the fault of the wicked that make it hard. Not like we will not teach it regardless.In the case of the charter schools they are actually setting a poor example of Christians because of their underhanded methods that just breed resentment at how taxpayer funding is spent.
It's a breach of integrity on the part of these creationists and they compromise the public perception of Christians as a whole.
I've spent time in China every summer since 2008 because my church is partnered with several churches there and we join forces for volunteer projects. Yes, it's a tremendous blessing that churches there are thriving when the government previously suppressed the Christian faith. I've witnessed one church in Harbin grow and expand so much there are now four. You can find Bibles in many bookstores, including the famous Wangfujing Bookstore in Beijing. My friends there who are Christians still attend school and learn genuine science.
I've directly asked them about this several times out of curiosity. Like me, they view Genesis as an allegory, so there is no disparity between their faith and their science education, and no need for subterfuge by their parents and instructors.
This tug of war between Christianity and evolution mainly takes place upon American soil.
No. It is necessary that a dying Christ rejecting nation go through the pangs of death and truth rejection.It's an absolutely unnecessary and counterproductive feud.
It needs to have the light of God to know the truth of creation and where so called science bites it.When it encroaches upon science education and impairs a student's education it's to the detriment of both the student and society.
What 'christians' do to molly coddle an anti Christ regime doesn't matter to me. I know what believers do.You want to tilt at the windmills about evolution, and perhaps that's your favorite form of exercise, but most sensible Christians find more productive ways to spend their time and energy.
No. We don't. The way you determine shared ancestry needs to be put on the table.B. We do share common ancestry with them.
Thus the question.
You guys don't think we're born spouting evolution, do you?
I thought evolution was about baby steps?
You gotta start somewhere, eh?
Not everyone has read Darwin's, The Preservation of Favoured Races.
No. We don't. The way you determine shared ancestry needs to be put on the table.
Maybe it's time to do a little shutting ourselvesBasically, they assume it is true and shout down anyone who disagrees.
I disagree.One hardly needs an impressive understanding of biology to understand the foolishness of the "why are there still monkeys?" question.
One only needs to realise that both you and your cousins can co-exist, thanks to your grandparents!
I disagree.
Some things take patience to teach.
If it was so easy, why are there books written on it?
Totally faith then. OK. Shallow end of the belief pool no less.The study of evolution isn't easy, there's a lot to learn.
However, the question "If we came from monkeys why are there still monkeys" is trivially easy.
It is no more a problem for evolution than the same question turned on creationists: "If we came from dirt, why is there still dirt?"
Its not a logical objection at all to either hypothesis! Not all the dirt was used up! Not all the monkeys were used up!
Not that it was monkeys, exactly, in the real scientific theory.
Thus the question.
You guys don't think we're born spouting evolution, do you?
I thought evolution was about baby steps?
You gotta start somewhere, eh?
Not everyone has read Darwin's, The Preservation of Favoured Races.
Did you slam your head into the keyboard and hope words came out?
Creationism is no more science than stamp collecting.
I agree with you 100% about this, AV.
No, but as far as I'm aware there are not stamp collecting textbooks being taught in science classes in a blatant effort to supplant actual science. Stamp collecting pseudoscience textbook manufacturing isn't a lucrative business. There haven't been lawsuits to prohibit stamp collecting from being taught in public schools as part of an academic discipline.
Though if there were stamp collecting creationist textbooks they probably would make up Ken Ham and Henry Morris stamps to cover over the ones of Darwin that several countries have issued to honor his accomplishments. Anything with a creationist stamp would be returned to sender as it lacks use and function in the real world.
Charles Darwin | Stamp Magazine
New Royal Mail stamps celebrate Charles Darwin | Science | The Guardian
That's something I wish creationists would come to realize:
That creationism is not science.
HOWEVER, it's not creationism's fault if creationists are trying to teach it as science.
Calling it "pseudoscience" then is, in my opinion, a misnomer.
I love your brilliant moments. However, pseudoscience is a label often given to subjects that people try to pass off as science, and I think creationism qualifies, or, more specifically, ID.
That's great because your "everything from nothing" straw man has no basis in reality either.
A. We don't share 25% them.
B. We do share common ancestry with them.
Hyperbolic rubbish. Teaching science in the science classroom is educating. Your overblown rhetoric is not helping you make your case.
For me that was a mere 14 years.
The Constitution says nor implies nothing of the sort. In fact a vague notion of God given rights was insufficient, hence the Bill of Rights.
Because we were scared of the Commies, not out of a natural sense of national piety.
The person to whom you were responding was talking about teaching science in the science classroom. I'm pretty sure most religious believers apart from Creationists would like to have science taught in the science classroom.
I disagree.
Some things take patience to teach.
If it was so easy, why are there books written on it?
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