Schoolhouse Sharia

[salida]

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See multiculturalism never works-the strongest culture will win out in the end. Europe is already battling this now! How did it start? Like this! In the classroom-there a little, here a little. They claim its a loving nice religion at first-then when they have control is all over folks forever!

 

[Belk]

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See multiculturalism never works-the strongest culture will win out in the end. Europe is already battling this now! How did it start? Like this! In the classroom-there a little, here a little. They claim its a loving nice religion at first-then when they have control is all over folks forever!

The article seems to be slightly xenophobic. One has to wonder if some Christians are aware of the history of their religion.

 

[lawtonfogle]

The article seems to be slightly xenophobic. One has to wonder if some Christians are aware of the history of their religion.

Many are not. Many say 'that was the Catholics' or such things.

 

[peadar1987]

Europe is not battling some sort of hostile Islamic takeover bid. Most Muslims in Europe are moderates, and I have the privilege of counting many of them among my friends. All they want is for Islam to be given a fair portayal alongside other world religions. I don't need to mention all of the disgusting verses in the bible, or the atrocities carried out by christian armies in the name of your god.

 

[Supreme]

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. Europe is already battling this now!

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No offense, but have you ever been to Europe? I don't think you have any right or experience on what's happening over here other than what you read on right wing websites and CNN.

In the classroom-there a little, here a little. They claim its a loving nice religion at first-then when they have control is all over folks forever!

Oh yes- those damn Muslims and their silly dream of being able to freely practise their religion!

See multiculturalism never works

See also: America

Europe is not battling some sort of hostile Islamic takeover bid. Most Muslims in Europe are moderates, and I have the privilege of counting many of them among my friends. All they want is for Islam to be given a fair portayal alongside other world religions. I don't need to mention all of the disgusting verses in the bible, or the atrocities carried out by christian armies in the name of your god.

True, although some of the less intelligent see a mosque and think 'Oh NOES- they must be taking over and because of their history they must be Nazis!' I think if Christians were better educated in our religion, and its bloodthirsty past- the Protestant vs Catholic 16th century Europe, the Crusades and the missonaries who went to Africa to convert or kill- they'd be less quick to judge.

 

[bigbadwilf]

Wouldn't the entire point of a comparative religion course be to compare religions? Given that most americans are christians of one flavour or another you'd expect it to take distinctly less time to get to get to the same level of knowledge about a religion than one that is comparatively rare in the US.

I've been a bit suspicious about IBD's neutrality and sensibility ever since they proclaimed that Stephen Hawking would not have survived on the NHS.

 

[BlackSabb]

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See multiculturalism never works-the strongest culture will win out in the end. Europe is already battling this now! How did it start? Like this! In the classroom-there a little, here a little. They claim its a loving nice religion at first-then when they have control is all over folks forever!

Damn straight! And good for you for having the courage to openly speak up on this topic. I make no secret that I am dead against all things Islamic in Western culture. The two don't mix. And the more that we Westerners tolerate Islamic culture, the more that they are a threat. My hit prediction is that in decades to come, some Western nations are going to fall to Islam.

And that is no good for anyone. Especially women.

 

[peadar1987]

Damn straight! And good for you for having the courage to openly speak up on this topic. I make no secret that I am dead against all things Islamic in Western culture. The two don't mix. And the more that we Westerners tolerate Islamic culture, the more that they are a threat. My hit prediction is that in decades to come, some Western nations are going to fall to Islam.

And that is no good for anyone. Especially women.

Just as a matter of interest, where are you from? Have you observed anything of this sort happening in any western country?

Again I will state, many of my friends in Ireland are Islam. They will socialise with westerners, they don't force their women to wear headscarves, they integrate fully with western society, and the only difference in their lives is that they eat Halal food, don't drink, and spend an hour of their Sundays in a mosque instead of a church.

Is this the sort of Islamic culture you are so against?

Islamic moderates are far less of a threat to the West than the christian extremists who advocate the denial of gay rights and the rape of the science curriculum.

 

[Joachim]

Europe is not battling some sort of hostile Islamic takeover bid. Most Muslims in Europe are moderates, and I have the privilege of counting many of them among my friends. All they want is for Islam to be given a fair portayal alongside other world religions. I don't need to mention all of the disgusting verses in the bible, or the atrocities carried out by christian armies in the name of your god.

Then why do they protest the laicite regulations in France?

 

[Supreme]

Damn straight! And good for you for having the courage to openly speak up on this topic. I make no secret that I am dead against all things Islamic in Western culture. The two don't mix. And the more that we Westerners tolerate Islamic culture, the more that they are a threat. My hit prediction is that in decades to come, some Western nations are going to fall to Islam.

And that is no good for anyone. Especially women.

Oh, I see. It's the culture change you're scared of. Noticed how today's culture is different from the culture of 100 years, 50 years, heck, even twenty years ago? Culture is consistently changing, and there is no consensus on what 'Islamic' or 'Western' culture is. The culture in the UK is different from that of the US. The culture os Saudi Arabia is different from Iran's.

 

[tulc]

Damn straight! And good for you for having the courage to openly speak up on this topic. I make no secret that I am dead against all things Islamic in Western culture. The two don't mix. And the more that we Westerners tolerate Islamic culture, the more that they are a threat. My hit prediction is that in decades to come, some Western nations are going to fall to Islam.

And that is no good for anyone. Especially women. (emph. added)

Hmmm...so you don't like almanacs, public libraries, chemistry, coffee, glass, hand guns or plumb lines? All of which are things Western Civilization got from Islamic Nations.
tulc(just sayn')

 

[peadar1987]

Then why do they protest the laicite regulations in France?

Moderate Irish Muslims have been protesting the Laicite regulations? This is all news to me!

Christians have also been protesting about not being allowed to wear crosses to schools, and to work, it just doesn't make such a good news story as "mad darkies are stealing our country".

And as I said, it's only a minority of Muslims who have any problem with it at all. All of my friends agree that faith should be kept out of schools. In fact, it's one of my christian friends who is in favour of bringing religion into every aspect of everyone's lives.

 

[Verv]

The article seems to be slightly xenophobic. One has to wonder if some Christians are aware of the history of their religion.

I do.

I wonder if most atheists know the history of atheism, though.

So many atheists view themselves as the result of linear progress towards a religion-less society which is a mockery of the truth.

Many are not. Many say 'that was the Catholics' or such things.

Well, it kind of was for quite some time.

Until the 16th century there were few Christian groups.

There were the Catholics, the Orthodox and her various subchurches, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, the Nestorians, the Coptics and other groups like the Circumcelliones and the Gnostics who were only around for a season.

the most powerful in the Western world, and by far the most corrupt of the exiting Churches, was the Catholic church.

There were reasons why the Protestants protested.

Europe is not battling some sort of hostile Islamic takeover bid. Most Muslims in Europe are moderates, and I have the privilege of counting many of them among my friends. All they want is for Islam to be given a fair portayal alongside other world religions. I don't need to mention all of the disgusting verses in the bible, or the atrocities carried out by christian armies in the name of your god.

Europe is not battling a hostile Islamic takeover?

Most Muslims are moderate?

What are some moderate Muslim views you can talk to me about.

Second, do you know why the disgusting things happened in the Old Testament? Could you give me an idea on why the Jews fought?

Third, what is a 'Christian army?'

Christian armies massacred each other across Europe for centuries.

You know what it was about?

Power, money.

That is what every war is about.

Check out John 18:36:

"Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another."
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Pretty obvious what Christ's intentions were here.

 

[BlackSabb]

Again I will state, many of my friends in Ireland are Islam. They will socialise with westerners, they don't force their women to wear headscarves, they integrate fully with western society, and the only difference in their lives is that they eat Halal food, don't drink, and spend an hour of their Sundays in a mosque instead of a church.

Is this the sort of Islamic culture you are so against?

Islamic moderates are far less of a threat to the West than the christian extremists who advocate the denial of gay rights and the rape of the science curriculum.

WRONG!!! The problem with Islam is that there are far more extremists per head of population than other religions. And not only that, dangerous extremists.

I know what I'm talking about btw. I'm here in Australia and I was working a night shift at a hospital when the first 911 attacks came. I saw the 2nd plane hit the twin tower live as it happened.

And then a pathogist courier came into the hospital. And there happened to be a cruise boat travelling that night with all Muslims on board. And he came into the hospital absolutely disgusted as he heard that many on board cheered the attacks.

I also had a friend that drove a taxi as part time work to support going to university. There were are a number of Muslim taxi drivers and he too was absolutely disgusted as he personally witnessed a number of them discussing amongst themselves that they should have the right to kill their daughters if they brought "dishonor" to their families.

Look at the upheavel in France when they all religious symbols and clothing, not just Islam, were banned in public schools. So don't tell me this nonsense how they're harmless and mostly moderate and not a threat to anyone.

Go to Saudia Arabia and other backward nations such as these and see what life is like there. Witness the executions, floggings etc and get back to me how much you like it.

Muslims are constantly pushing for their religion to be state law. And if we don't wake up to ourselves, they'll get it and we'll lose our way of life.

 

[Supreme]

Do you know any Muslims?

 

[Gishin]

Salida would love the British National Party.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To Paedar1987,

Europe is not battling some sort of hostile Islamic takeover bid. Most Muslims in Europe are moderates, and I have the privilege of counting many of them among my friends. All they want is for Islam to be given a fair portayal alongside other world religions. I don't need to mention all of the disgusting verses in the bible, or the atrocities carried out by christian armies in the name of your god.

As someone who invites Muslims into my house for dinner and spends great times socialising with them you might be interested to know that’s irrelevant to understanding what the difference is in the two worldviews according to the Biblical testimony of God and the Quranic revelation of Allah through Mohamed and Haddith.
The Christian is to live out gospel of Jesus Christ and share it in all the world and to make disciples of whoever believes. It is freely given and free to receive. I would argue that the Muslim is to make all the world geographically Islamic and recognising Allah. I can give you some scriptures and surahs, if you wish, to show this. So the aim isn’t so dissimilar, but you can see this in operation in many Islamic countries where no other religion is allowed. So I would say moderate Muslims do want to take over just as much as moderate Christians pray and hope that people will accept Christ.
You could mention what you see as disgusting verses in the Bible and I could probably mention what I would guess you would consider disgusting verses in the Quran.
As to history, well you don’t need to mention the crusades or the inquisition or how Islam invaded countries like Egypt and slaughtered people, but I would suggest if you look around today you wont see so suicide bombs, chopping peoples hands off for stealing and heads off for disbelieving in the name of Christ so much as in the name of Islam. So I would suggest a better balance in your argument.

 

[Gishin]

To Paedar1987,
As someone who invites Muslims into my house for dinner and spends great times socialising with them you might be interested to know that’s irrelevant to understanding what the difference is in the two worldviews according to the Biblical testimony of God and the Quranic revelation of Allah through Mohamed and Haddith.
The Christian is to live out gospel of Jesus Christ and share it in all the world and to make disciples of whoever believes. It is freely given and free to receive. I would argue that the Muslim is to make all the world geographically Islamic and recognising Allah. I can give you some scriptures and surahs, if you wish, to show this. So the aim isn’t so dissimilar, but you can see this in operation in many Islamic countries where no other religion is allowed. So I would say moderate Muslims do want to take over just as much as moderate Christians pray and hope that people will accept Christ.
You could mention what you see as disgusting verses in the Bible and I could probably mention what I would guess you would consider disgusting verses in the Quran.
As to history, well you don’t need to mention the crusades or the inquisition or how Islam invaded countries like Egypt and slaughtered people, but I would suggest if you look around today you wont see so suicide bombs, chopping peoples hands off for stealing and heads off for disbelieving in the name of Christ so much as in the name of Islam. So I would suggest a better balance in your argument.

We wouldn't have these problems if it wasn't for religion.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To Gishin,

We wouldn't have these problems if it wasn't for religion.

er yes we would, there were more people killed by atheist regimes such as nazism and communism in the last century than the previous centuries put together, but as I said I dont think what doesnt represent the religion should be held entirely responisible for the religion.

 

[peadar1987]

Europe is not battling a hostile Islamic takeover?

Most Muslims are moderate?

What are some moderate Muslim views you can talk to me about.

The views of my friends that every religion, although they might not believe in what it teaches, deserves respect?

That women deserve to be treated as equals and friends?

That peace and prosperity are more important than the spread of your own beliefs?

These are all held by my Muslim friends.

Now tell me how you know so much more about my own continent than I do.

Second, do you know why the disgusting things happened in the Old Testament? Could you give me an idea on why the Jews fought?

Ever read the book of Joshua? Unprovoked attacks on the indigenous tribes of Canaan, and genocide when victory was attained.

Third, what is a 'Christian army?'

An army fighting specifically for a christian belief. The crusaders for example. Or the armies that massacred each other during the reformation on purely religious grounds.

Christian armies massacred each other across Europe for centuries.

You know what it was about?

Power, money.

That is what every war is about.

Even the war extremist Muslims are fighting against the West? Then surely Islam isn't actually the problem.