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IvanOng

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A is a notorius murderer. He commited 9999 evil deeds like stealing,killing, adultery,almost all the ten commandments and some good deeds too. However before he's hanged, he repented and accepted Jesus as his saviour.

B is a Buddist. He has done 9999 good deeds like blood,organ and $ donation to the needies, and had taken part in many volunteery organisations to aid needy countries etc... and some bad deeds too. However due to strong restrictions from his family themselves and their traditions which led to his least exposure to God's words, he didn't accept Christ. In order words, he's forced to follow their own God. B is murdered by A.

Q1) Will A goes to heaven? I know the answer is yes.

Q2) Will B goes to heaven? The answer is a definite 'No' or 'Maybe'?

Q3) I know God doesn't impress or care about B's worldly contribution, but why not lets think of this scenario whereby B is a father of 3 children. These 3 children converted themselves into Christians and B didn't object and respected to it. And when these 3 children grew older, they preached and had successfully get more people into the Kingdom of God. Then these saved people repeated the whole procedure and thus more people are saved and so on. Here comes the question, without his father, those people who are saved through his 3 children would not be saved or rather maybe. And there are many scenarios where B contributed alot to 'Christianity' just that he didn't accept Christ.

Q4) If A can go to heaven, will God take B into consideration and give him a 2nd chance on account of how good B treated and helped God's children in some ways?

Q5) If God didn't give B a 2nd chance, not only B couldn't enter heaven but will be tortured eternally in hell even after what he had done compared to A who in the end ends up in Heaven. Did Bible mention any other place rather than Heaven and Hell where people with such similar cases like 'B' could end up in?

Q6) If people like B are sent to hell for sure, then it would be the saddest day for most of the Christians to see their loved ones going to be tortured eternally. At this rate, it seems that the population in Hell is increasing rapidly and would too in the future due to the authorities on earth and restrictions. Is there any possibility God will have mercy on such people after their death?

Q7) Conclusion: Reward the good, punish the bad. Every1 knows this. However in this case, the good ones(people who are closely or similar to A) didn have the chance to realize his sins through the baptizing of Holy Spirt due to certain factors are punished too. What's your view on this?
 

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IvanOng said:
A is a notorius murderer. He commited 9999 evil deeds like stealing,killing, adultery,almost all the ten commandments and some good deeds too. However before he's hanged, he repented and accepted Jesus as his saviour.

B is a Buddist. He has done 9999 good deeds like blood,organ and $ donation to the needies, and had taken part in many volunteery organisations to aid needy countries etc... and some bad deeds too. However due to strong restrictions from his family themselves and their traditions which led to his least exposure to God's words, he didn't accept Christ. In order words, he's forced to follow their own God. B is murdered by A.

Q1) Will A goes to heaven? I know the answer is yes.

Q2) Will B goes to heaven? The answer is a definite 'No' or 'Maybe'?

Q3) I know God doesn't impress or care about B's worldly contribution, but why not lets think of this scenario whereby B is a father of 3 children. These 3 children converted themselves into Christians and B didn't object and respected to it. And when these 3 children grew older, they preached and had successfully get more people into the Kingdom of God. Then these saved people repeated the whole procedure and thus more people are saved and so on. Here comes the question, without his father, those people who are saved through his 3 children would not be saved or rather maybe. And there are many scenarios where B contributed alot to 'Christianity' just that he didn't accept Christ.

Q4) If A can go to heaven, will God take B into consideration and give him a 2nd chance on account of how good B treated and helped God's children in some ways?

Q5) If God didn't give B a 2nd chance, not only B couldn't enter heaven but will be tortured eternally in hell even after what he had done compared to A who in the end ends up in Heaven. Did Bible mention any other place rather than Heaven and Hell where people with such similar cases like 'B' could end up in?

Q6) If people like B are sent to hell for sure, then it would be the saddest day for most of the Christians to see their loved ones going to be tortured eternally. At this rate, it seems that the population in Hell is increasing rapidly and would too in the future due to the authorities on earth and restrictions. Is there any possibility God will have mercy on such people after their death?

Q7) Conclusion: Reward the good, punish the bad. Every1 knows this. However in this case, the good ones(people who are closely or similar to A) didn have the chance to realize his sins through the baptizing of Holy Spirt due to certain factors are punished too. What's your view on this?

It seems you are doing your absolute best to undermine the saving forgiveness of Jesus by giving an extreme example. But irrespective of how extreme you make your example. Person A will have eternity with God.

Here i will go even to a greater extreme lets say Adolph Hitler the leader of Nazi Germany had repented just before He died of His sins and accepted Jesus as his savior, would ha have been saved? Answer YES.

You did not clearly state if B had rejected the truth of Jesus. If He had then He would not be saved. If he had never heard about Jesus then i cannot give you a definite answer.



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IvanOng said:
Q3) I know God doesn't impress or care about B's worldly contribution, but why not lets think of this scenario whereby B is a father of 3 children. These 3 children converted themselves into Christians and B didn't object and respected to it. And when these 3 children grew older, they preached and had successfully get more people into the Kingdom of God. Then these saved people repeated the whole procedure and thus more people are saved and so on. Here comes the question, without his father, those people who are saved through his 3 children would not be saved or rather maybe. And there are many scenarios where B contributed alot to 'Christianity' just that he didn't accept Christ.
Ezekiel 18 will answer your question. Romans 1:18-20 as well.

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Q4) If A can go to heaven, will God take B into consideration and give him a 2nd chance on account of how good B treated and helped God's children in some ways?
Since God is HOLY, He cannot stand one of B's sins. But since A asked for forgiveness, God forgave all of A's sins, so A has no more sins on his record.

IvanOng said:
Q5) If God didn't give B a 2nd chance, not only B couldn't enter heaven but will be tortured eternally in hell even after what he had done compared to A who in the end ends up in Heaven. Did Bible mention any other place rather than Heaven and Hell where people with such similar cases like 'B' could end up in?
No. Some people I believe will suffer more than others in Hell.

IvanOng said:
Q6) If people like B are sent to hell for sure, then it would be the saddest day for most of the Christians to see their loved ones going to be tortured eternally. At this rate, it seems that the population in Hell is increasing rapidly and would too in the future due to the authorities on earth and restrictions. Is there any possibility God will have mercy on such people after their death?
That's God's problem. Remember He loves them, yet He set this whole system up. It's His loss too, yet He is the one doing it.

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Q7) Conclusion: Reward the good, punish the bad. Every1 knows this. However in this case, the good ones(people who are closely or similar to A) didn have the chance to realize his sins through the baptizing of Holy Spirt due to certain factors are punished too. What's your view on this?
God has ways of reaching people before death, even in the 10/40 Window, where Christianity is most opposed. But this is also why we need to spread the Gospel so people can believe in it and be saved.
 
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A. would be saved because he accepted Christ.B. is not saved because he did'nt accept Christ and he sinned,One sin is one sin to many.You need Christ to wash your sin's away and to be saved.Here is what the bible say's about this.God Bless

Romans 3:22"This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.There is no difference,for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."

1 Corinthians 15:55-58"Where,O death,Is your victory?Where,O death,Is your Sting?The sting of death is sin,and the power of sin is the law.But thanks be to God! He gives us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."

Romans 10:9"That if you confess with your mouth Jesus is lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved.

John 5:24"I tell you the truth ,whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned he has crossed over from death to life."

Acts 2:21"And everyone who calls on the name of the lord will be saved."

Romans 6:23"For the wages of sin is death,but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

John 3:16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son,that Whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world,but to save the world through him."

John 1:9"If we confess our sins,He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."

Galatians 5:24"Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires."

Romans 10:17"Consequently,faith comes hearing the message,and the message is heard through the word of Christ."

Romans 10:12"For there is no difference between jew and gentile the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on Him for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

2 Corinthians 5:17"Therefore,if anyone is in Christ,he is a new creation the old has gone the new has come."
 
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IvanOng said:
Q2) Will B goes to heaven? The answer is a definite 'No' or 'Maybe'?

Q3) I know God doesn't impress or care about B's worldly contribution, but why not lets think of this scenario whereby B is a father of 3 children. These 3 children converted themselves into Christians and B didn't object and respected to it. And when these 3 children grew older, they preached and had successfully get more people into the Kingdom of God. Then these saved people repeated the whole procedure and thus more people are saved and so on. Here comes the question, without his father, those people who are saved through his 3 children would not be saved or rather maybe. And there are many scenarios where B contributed alot to 'Christianity' just that he didn't accept Christ.

The answer is no B will not go to heaven.
As you already indicated worldly contributions mean nothing to God. So to ask why not is to question God in why works don’t get us into heaven. To do that is to make trivial the sacrifice Jesus made for all of us. The father rejected Jesus but allowed his children to be Christians, that right there is proof that he was exposed to the truth yet rejected it, therefore rejected Jesus. The children made the decision to receive the free gift of salvation and through them Jesus saves others. The only credit we can give the father is, without the father, these specific children would not of been born. The people who were saved by Jesus by hearing the truth from those children would have been saved regardless of the people who presented the truth because in their hearts, they accepted Jesus.

We all know that God can not lie, and in His word He lets us know that everyone will have a chance to hear the truth – with that said, rejection of Jesus is just as much of a decision, as accepting Him is. The difference being where we end up for eternity.

Remember there is a difference between a good thing and a God thing.
 
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