If we are not omniscient, omnipotent and eternal we are not made in god's image.Also if we do not have free will then we are not made in God's image.
A sugar coated lie is telling them they are an innocent victim of an evil crime?
The fact youre missing is, no one is innocent if you really wanna get down to it.
It's the same little lie we say when the phrase "You're a good person..." is used.
Ah so molested children and raped women deserve what they get since they aren't innocent anyway and are tools for God's use...something like that?
We all deserve far worse...things happen for a reason beyond human will, that is all I am saying.
Do you believe in a god that sits on High, weeping and woeful, yet completely passive and disconnected towards and from His creation? A god that does nothing and controls nothing? Because to suggest that God is simply sitting idly by, interventionless, letting all this sin and atrocity occur is not the God I believe in.
So children to you deserve rape and torture. Sounds like you serve Moloch not God who has love and grace and says let all the children come to me and be like a child.
Jeremiah 32:35 NKJV
And they built the high places of Baal which are in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I did not command them, nor did it come into My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.’
We all deserve far worse...things happen for a reason beyond human will, that is all I am saying.
Do you believe in a god that sits on High, weeping and woeful, yet completely passive and disconnected towards and from His creation? A god that does nothing and controls nothing? Because to suggest that God is simply sitting idly by, interventionless, letting all this sin and atrocity occur is not the God I believe in.
"I'm sorry child that you were taken and abused by that pedophile, but really, you deserve far worse":o
I've not said anything to infer anything in the second paragraph, simply dealing with the victims.
You're putting words in my mouth....your thoughts on Sodom, Gomorrah, and the destruction of the Canaanites please?
Ecclesiastes 9:2-3
"All things come alike to all: One event happens to the righteous and the wicked; to the good and clean and the unclean; to him who sacrifices and him who does not sacrifice. As is the good, so is the sinner; He who takes an oath as he who fears an oath. This is an evil that is done under the sun; that one thing happens to all."
v.11-12 "The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, nor riches to men of understanding, nor favor to men of skill; but time and chance happen to them all. For man does not know his time; like fish taken in a cruel net, like birds caught in a snare, so the sons of men are snared in an evil time, when it falls suddenly upon them."
I think the older, a bit wiser-for-the-wear Solomon struggled with what y'all are debating about. He came to the conclusion that "under the sun" (here on this earth) these thing do indeed happen...there is a time for all things under the sun...good things and bad....but he accepted that he didn't really know exactly why.
At the end of the book he basically says that he could have went on pondering and writing but that it would become "wearisome"....spinning his wheels on questions that the Lord has not given a clear explanation to...so he ends with this....fear God...keep His commandments...God will bring every work into judgment.
And this belief is founded on what grounds?
(For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
I've seen you misuse this verse a few times now and will have to ask you nicely to stop playing with the Bible and read the verse in context. Back up and re-read the chapter. Paul is telling us that a covenant was made with Adam (eat not the fruit of the tree) and live. He broke that law and all who are in Adam fell. His sin was imputed to us as our federal head or the one God made the covenant with on behalf of all mankind. It's all right there in Romans. You would have to say man had NO LAW whatsoever before Sinai which isn't true.
My added comments in bold brackets.
"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law (given at Sinai), do by nature the things contained in the law (given at Sinai), these, having not the law (given at Sinai), are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law (given at Sinai) written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." (Rom 2:14-16)
The Jews were given a special revelation from God at Sinai* but all mankind knows, to some extent, the Law of God.
jm
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* as I continue to read I understand the Sinaitic covenant to be republications of the covenant of works but I'm still learning
I've seen you misuse this verse a few times now and will have to ask you nicely to stop playing with the Bible and read the verse in context. Back up and re-read the chapter. Paul is telling us that a covenant was made with Adam (eat not the fruit of the tree) and live. He broke that law and all who are in Adam fell. His sin was imputed to us as our federal head or the one God made the covenant with on behalf of all mankind. It's all right there in Romans. You would have to say man had NO LAW whatsoever before Sinai which isn't true.
My added comments in bold brackets.
"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law (given at Sinai), do by nature the things contained in the law (given at Sinai), these, having not the law (given at Sinai), are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law (given at Sinai) written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." (Rom 2:14-16)
The Jews were given a special revelation from God at Sinai* but all mankind knows, to some extent, the Law of God.
jm
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* as I continue to read I understand the Sinaitic covenant to be republications of the covenant of works but I'm still learning
Matthew 19:14 NKJV
But Jesus said, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”
Romans:13 NKJV
(For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Child-like faith is real faith...why stop that? Is this the catch-all verse for you that says no one under the age of <insertNumber> goes to hell?
But there is a Law...Christ's Law enacted now, and Mosaic Law shows us still what sin is. So there is no such thing as non-imputed sin. To suggest otherwise is to say the polytheistic indigenous island tribes are rather spot free in the sight of God, since they don't know they are sinning...doesn't make sense.
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