Save a homosexual's soul!

EnemyPartyII · Sep 17, 2007

I solemnly swear, that when the following criteria are addressed, I will forever and all time renounce homosexuality:

a. You can show me a reason beyond "The Bible SEZ!" to consider homosexuality immoral

and/or

b. You can show a reason to consider all biblical teaching inerrant or unchangeing

and/or

c. You can conclusively prove that
Quote:
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
is an accurate and culturally adjusted, context relevent translation

Phinehas2 · Sep 17, 2007

I cant, only Jesus can do that.

EnemyPartyII · Sep 17, 2007

Phinehas2 said:
I cant, only Jesus can do that.

well, thats one really pathetic cop out.

Next?

ReformedChapin · Sep 17, 2007

EnemyPartyII said:
well, thats one really pathetic cop out.

Next?

Nope, no one can force you to see beyond your pressupositions. It's like trying to talk to a brick wall.

EnemyPartyII · Sep 17, 2007

NewGuy101 said:
Nope, no one can force you to see beyond your pressupositions. It's like trying to talk to a brick wall.

I'm completely open to the posibility that someone will actually adress the three requirements.

If you posses trancendant truth, as you so often claim, this should not be difficult for you.

artybloke · Sep 17, 2007

It's like trying to talk to a brick wall.

Hello, Brick Wall, how's it hanging there?

Phinehas2 · Sep 17, 2007

So why do you think sexually immorality, idolatry, adultery, prostitution, same-sex sex theft, drunkeness, greed, slander and swindling are ok?
I dont think any of them are because I can see they are all condemned not just in 1 Cor 6 but throughout the Bible

EnemyPartyII · Sep 17, 2007

Phinehas2 said:
So why do you think sexually immorality, idolatry, adultery, prostitution, same-sex sex theft, drunkeness, greed, slander and swindling are ok?
I dont think any of them are because I can see they are all condemned not just in 1 Cor 6 but throughout the Bible

So... you come into this thread and use an "the Bible SEZ!" argument in your first post?

Did you even READ the OP?

ReformedChapin · Sep 17, 2007

EnemyPartyII said:
I'm completely open to the posibility that someone will actually adress the three requirements.

If you posses trancendant truth, as you so often claim, this should not be difficult for you.

No you are not, you have made it more than clear that there is no way going beyond your naturalistic assumptions.

Phinehas2 · Sep 17, 2007

Dear EnemyPartyII

So... you come into this thread and use an "the Bible SEZ!" argument in your first post?

Yes of course 1 Cor 6 is the Bible isnt it, thats in the OP.

Did you even READ the OP?

Yes obviously. Did you know know what you were writing?

EnemyPartyII · Sep 17, 2007

NewGuy101 said:
No you are not, you have made it more than clear that there is no way going beyond your naturalistic assumptions.

well, no... not if all you're going to do is quote random chunks of Bible at me... but I happiy admit that.

But please, if you got anything other than that, I'm all ears?

EnemyPartyII · Sep 17, 2007

Phinehas2 said:
Dear EnemyPartyII
Yes of course 1 Cor 6 is the Bible isnt it, thats in the OP.

Yes obviously. Did you know know what you were writing?

and if you had read and understood the OP, you would note that I'm asking for evidence that 1 Cor 6 is actually accurately translated and interpreted as a condemnation against homosexuality AND that it comes from God.

Just saying "1 Cor 6 is in the Bible" doesn't prove anything other than that 1 Cor 6 is in the Bible.

Yes, I already agree that it is.

Now... you got any evidence that there is any reason to pay it the same attention I would pay to Jesus?

ReformedChapin · Sep 17, 2007

EnemyPartyII said:
well, no... not if all you're going to do is quote random chunks of Bible at me... but I happiy admit that.

But please, if you got anything other than that, I'm all ears?

I didn't, I keep showing you logical contradictions in your world view. That's besides the fact that you need to take a courses on biblical exegesis since you cannot seem to understand scripture accurately.

EnemyPartyII · Sep 17, 2007

NewGuy101 said:
I didn't, I keep showing you logical contradictions in your world view. That's besides the fact that you need to take a courses on biblical exegesis since you cannot seem to understand scripture accurately.

logical contradictions in my world view? fine. Whatever.

You going to address the OP, or did you just come in here to harangue me?

I make a genuine request for people to calmly and genuinely try to explain to me why they believe I should change my personal lifestyle, and so far, all you have done is make derogatory and deliberately argumentative comments.

GodsoldierClintus · Sep 17, 2007

Bookmarked...I will answer 2 and 3 at some stage just not tonight.

davedjy · Sep 17, 2007

EnemyPartyll said:
you know know what you were writing?
and if you had read and understood the OP, you would note that I'm asking for evidence that 1 Cor 6 is actually accurately translated and interpreted as a condemnation against homosexuality AND that it comes from God.

Most people that come here will read 1 Cor 6:9, and not even realize that the word "Homosexual" is a serious breaking of Biblical Exegesis. Translation to translation, they can't get Arsenokoitai translated consistently, or malakoi for that matter, but hardly anyone will look past whatever translation they are reading.

Ohioprof · Sep 17, 2007

NewGuy101 said:
Nope, no one can force you to see beyond your pressupositions. It's like trying to talk to a brick wall.

Pot....kettle.

Wiccan_Child · Sep 17, 2007

GodsoldierClintus said:
Bookmarked...I will answer 2 and 3 at some stage just not tonight.

I look forward to this with earnest.

Ohioprof · Sep 17, 2007

NewGuy101 said:
I didn't, I keep showing you logical contradictions in your world view. That's besides the fact that you need to take a courses on biblical exegesis since you cannot seem to understand scripture accurately.

You really mean that she does not interpret scripture the same way that YOU do.

TheFathersDaughter · Sep 17, 2007

Well NewGuy if you're so confident you should have no problem convincing her otherwise. If someone offers you a cookie you take it don't you?

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