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Cool.Most Christians believe we're born into sin.
No, you only said what others said, how they put it,The way I "put it" is pretty clear.
So ?Yes, it's my belief that mainstream Christians believe we are born into sin.
How can you be forgiven of sin ?About what, exactly??
No , it doesn't.Depends what one's personal view of soteriology is.
You know I'm atheist, right? And as an atheist, I recognize the concept of "sin" is a religious notion, with no basis in reality, therefore, no one need be "forgiven" of.No , it doesn't.
I didn't ask about any religious view of anything, anyway.
I asked you, yourself, how you can be forgiven for [your] sin.
I did not ask anyone else what you think.
When I was a Christian, I was told that Joseph Smith, Muhammad (FBUH), and the like were in communication with the devil when they concocted their false religions. Alien abductees were actually victims of demonic encounters.
So Satan has the ability to create false religions, he has the desire to, and he has in fact succeeded in doing so.
Now, imagine that you're Satan in 1000 BC. You see that God has established a covenant with man and has set up specific rules for living, atonement of sins, and etc. You want to deceive these people. How do you do it?
Would you perhaps find a way to convince them that they don't need to perform animal sacrifices? Would you find a way to convince them that the temple is no longer a holy place? What if you could accomplish this by substituting for God someone else that they could worship? Would that be a worthwhile aim, again, pretending that you're Satan?
If you're Satan in 1000 BC, what parts of the New Testament would not seem like a good idea to you? In short, I'd like to know what parts of the New Testament could not have been authored or inspired by Satan. What parts of the New Testament contradict Satan's goals to the point that he would not advocate such ideas even to advance a false god for people to worship?
If you refuse to answer this, then you surrender your right to fling accusations of other religions or experiences being Satanic. And worse, if you refuse to answer, you have absolutely no way of knowing whether or not your beliefs are an extreme insult to YHWH.
It is perhaps, so you might sometime understand ,You know I'm atheist, right? And as an atheist, I recognize the concept of "sin" is a religious notion, with no basis in reality, therefore, no one need be "forgiven" of.
But what about prisoners who won't be rehabilitated? Is imprisonment not still justified?
Remember in the New Testament,I think it would still be good to figure out why they're not being rehabilitated in the hope of helping them. Keeping them in prison in the mean time would be justified, as long as the purpose is to help them. I suppose it's justified to keep them in prison in order to prevent them from harming others, but it'd still be better to fix the root issue so they can be released.
That's for you to suss out.It is perhaps, so you might sometime understand ,
as if there are outstanding warrants against you,
even though you deny it.
Once prosecuted/ enforced, bye bye.... (yes, forever) ...
Until then, before you pass on from this world,
there is a tiny chance you have to be pardoned.
I'm not talking about people who aren't receiving help that they need, I'm talking about those that don't want to be rehabilitated - people that are going to be career criminals regardless.I think it would still be good to figure out why they're not being rehabilitated in the hope of helping them. Keeping them in prison in the mean time would be justified, as long as the purpose is to help them. I suppose it's justified to keep them in prison in order to prevent them from harming others, but it'd still be better to fix the root issue so they can be released.
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