Celticflower
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Let's see---was it the BB gun or the Flexible Flyer sled that you didn't get as a child??
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concernedamerican said:I have a real problem when parents lie to their children, about the fat man in a red suit who goes down chimneys. If, He knows when you are sleeping. He knows when youre awake. He knows when youve been bad or good... Wouldnt that make him all-knowing and omnipresent? If he can get presents to every house in the world in one night wouldnt that have to make him all-powerful also? Isnt God the only one who really has those attributes? The first of Ten Commandments, which God wrote with His own finger, says, Thou shalt have no other gods before me (Exodus 20:3). Shouldnt the focus of Christmas be on Christ, not Santa? Besides why would you want some fat man to get the credit for your hard work anyway? And finally, if parents lie to their kids about Santa, and then later tell them that an all-knowing, all-powerful God loved them so much that He sent His son Jesus to earth to die for their sins, how are they suppose to believe it? Why should they believe any thing their parents say after that?
concernedamerican said:I have a real problem when parents lie to their children, about the fat man in a red suit who goes down chimneys. If, He knows when you are sleeping. He knows when youre awake. He knows when youve been bad or good... Wouldnt that make him all-knowing and omnipresent? If he can get presents to every house in the world in one night wouldnt that have to make him all-powerful also? Isnt God the only one who really has those attributes? The first of Ten Commandments, which God wrote with His own finger, says, Thou shalt have no other gods before me (Exodus 20:3). Shouldnt the focus of Christmas be on Christ, not Santa? Besides why would you want some fat man to get the credit for your hard work anyway? And finally, if parents lie to their kids about Santa, and then later tell them that an all-knowing, all-powerful God loved them so much that He sent His son Jesus to earth to die for their sins, how are they suppose to believe it? Why should they believe any thing their parents say after that?
Happy HolidaysIt is make-believe if it is presented as make-believe. Many children however are told that Santa is real. Then he is used (and my mother is the worst for this) to discipline children: "if you are naughty, santa won't get you a present".
This must enter the imagination world of a child: behaving good when no-one is watching, because actually santa is. Not good. Imagination is precious. The trust of parents is precious. I have told my children the true story of St. Nicholas, as a historical account, and I have told them that many of their friends believe in Santa. When they are older, they will find out the truth. My children like being in on the secret. It makes them more trusting of myself. Now at the age they are at, when I make pronouncements on morality, evolution, faith, miracles, they are listening because they know I am honest and not trying to manipulate them.
Santa - an icon of our age. We become what we worship. Fat, over-indulgent, and only generous for one day a year. Doesn't form actual relationships with people, but uses presents as substitute for love.
Sounds like Western culture to me.
So would you not do the same with your children??Interesting thread.
It's funny but I remember the day when I discovered that Santa Claus was not real. I was shocked as I realised that my parents had lied to me. Up until that day I had thought that they only told me the truth. After that I always had a tiny bit of doubt about the truth of what they told me.
If he can get presents to every house in the world in one night wouldn’t that have to make him all-powerful also?"
tulc(hope that helped)There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the
world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish
or Buddhist (except maybe in Japan) religions, this reduces the workload for
Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the
population reference bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children
per household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming there is at least
one good child in each.
Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different
time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming east to west (which seems
logical). This works out to 967.7 visits per second. This is to say that for
each Christian household with a good child, Santa has around 1/1000th of a
second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the
stocking, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever
snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh
and get onto the next house.
Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around
the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the
purposes of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per
household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops
or breaks. This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second --
3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man
made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a pokey 27.4 miles per
second, and a conventional reindeer can run (at best) 15 miles per hour.
The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that
each child gets nothing more than a medium sized LEGO set (two pounds), the
sleigh is carrying over 500 thousands tons, not counting Santa himself. On
land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even
granting that the "flying" reindeer can pull 10 times the normal amount, the
job can't be done with eight or even nine of them -- Santa would need
360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the
sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen
Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch).
Six hundred thousand (600,000) tons traveling at 650 miles per second
creates enormous air resistance -- this would heat up the reindeer in the
same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead
pair of reindeer would adsorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second
each. In short, they would burst into flames almost instantaneously,
exposing the reindeer behind them and creating deafening sonic booms in
their wake.
The entire reindeer team would be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a
second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip.
Not that it matters, however, since Santa, as a result of accelerating from
a dead stop to 650 m.p.s. in .001 seconds, would be subjected to
acceleration forces of 17,000 g's. A 250-pound Santa (which seems
ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015
pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to
a quivering blob of pink goo. Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now.
No. Merry CHRIST-mas. Say it with me now. CHRISTMAS. C'mon. Christmas.Happy Holidays
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