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Ya --- of course it is --- [rolls eyes]."It doesn't matter to this thread" is a non-answer. Whether you admit it or not, it's missing key pieces of information about the condition of the man.
Glad we agree.Ya --- of course it is --- [rolls eyes].
No, it wouldn't --- I already [somewhat] agree that the earth is 4.57 billion years old.
I already took and answered this challenge, and I made it quite clear that I saw no deception or intent to deceive. You then accused me of a non sequitur and had the thread closed. In any case, your analogy utterly fails for all the reasons your analogies always fail - they oversimplify reality to the point of irrelevance.Good --- then I invite you two to take this challenge, and let's see how you answer it.
If you can't show deception and the intent to deceive, then don't act like you're some kind of "experts" on the subject.
Which answer in no way fit the OP.I already took and answered this challenge, and I made it quite clear that I saw no deception or intent to deceive.
Which was justified.You then accused me of a non sequitur and had the thread closed.
Hmmm --- you thought you had answered it, I pointed out you didn't, now you say it's an utter failure. LOandL.In any case, your analogy utterly fails for all the reasons your analogies always fail - they oversimplify reality to the point of irrelevance.
Which answer in no way fit the OP.
Which answer in no way fit the OP.
Very simple, Psudopod --- the point of this thread is that the Bible is not responsible for starting or teaching evolution.I really want your honest answer about what you were trying to show.
He was talking about your latest rediculous "challenge" thread, AV. Not about this one.Very simple, Psudopod --- the point of this thread is that the Bible is not responsible for starting or teaching evolution.
Nowhere at all --- but I'm amazed at why TEs believe the way they do. The Bible shoots down the E part of TE in It's opening chapter. I don't see TE in the Bible at all --- even if I step back and look at Genesis One allegorically.Indeed, sorry I thought I was clearer. And where on earth did you get the idea that bible might be responsible for starting evolution?
Nowhere at all --- but I'm amazed at why TEs believe the way they do. The Bible shoots down the E part of TE in It's opening chapter. I don't see TE in the Bible at all --- even if I step back and look at Genesis One allegorically.
Yes, I have a problem with that --- it's called "creation."Hey, AV, don't forget my post!Well then, let's call it "embedded evolution" then, okay?
Animals were created as though they had evolved for billions of years. Have you got a problem with that? if so, what?
Yes, I have a problem with that --- it's called "creation."
How would taking Genesis allegorically mean it would shoot down evolution? Surely, you are placing your pre-conceived ideas into an allegorical account? If not, how not?Nowhere at all --- but I'm amazed at why TEs believe the way they do. The Bible shoots down the E part of TE in It's opening chapter. I don't see TE in the Bible at all --- even if I step back and look at Genesis One allegorically.
Creation is the antithesis of evolution --- and Jesus spoke of Creation.And please explain how creation means that embedded evolution is impossible...?
Because of the order of the events.How would taking Genesis allegorically mean it would shoot down evolution?
ok - thanks AV. I understand that even through this allegorical interpretation, you still impose a literal order of events.Because of the order of the events.
It's one thing to say God "evolved" the angiosperms on the third day, then "formed" the sun on the fourth; but it's quite another to say God "formed" the sun on the third day, then "evolved" the angiosperms on the fourth.
In other words, interpreting a word or passage allegorically is not the same thing as flip-flopping words and passages around like pancakes.
Creation is the antithesis of evolution --- and Jesus spoke of Creation.
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