SALVATION offered by Jesus: COMPLETED and IRREVOCABLE

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There are things from scripture that support what I believe in, but this thread is long and drawn out enough as it is!
Sure. Just more excuses and dodging. I thought you had to get to your devotions. Or was that just another dodge too?
 
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You would have to read my doctrinal statement to see how it all works out in my mind. Again it is Freedom from Sin: Overcominv the Wet Paint Principle (the complete version): in the hamartiology section of general theology on these boards.
I'm having much more fun reading Scripture every day.

How many times in a year do you read through all the epistles?
 
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Give me a dissertation of what you believe in in the next day, even though you may have other things to do. If you don't, you're just making excuses!
 
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Sure. Just more excuses and dodging. I thought you had to get to your devotions. Or was that just another dodge too?
I still want to finish up here. But I also have a church meeting to go to tonight.
 
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I'm having much more fun reading Scripture every day.

How many times in a year do you read through all the epistles?
Go ahead and don't read it. It's obvious you don't want to understand where I'm coming from.
 
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You would have to read my doctrinal statement to see how it all works out in my mind. Again it is Freedom from Sin: Overcominv the Wet Paint Principle (the complete version): in the hamartiology section of general theology on these boards.
OK, went there. The OP comes from one Victor Jedidiah, and is a mess, to be frank.

He claims sinless perfection for the believer, then contradicts that claim with a statement that includes "as long as...". But one cannot have it both ways. So his claims are contradictory.

The words "wet pain principle" was never defined or described. So it seems he wasn't too concerned about communicating.
 
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I asked this:
"How many times in a year do you read through all the epistles?"
Are you claiming you read through Romans - Revelation every week? Remember, I said READ THROUGH. That means every verse in every epistle.
 
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As I said, every time one comes to "save" in the Bible, the question that must be asked is: saved...from what?

The term saved by itself without any other reference to refer to is referring to salvation. Anyone who knows the scriptures knows this. Including you.
 
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The term saved by itself without any other reference to refer to is referring to salvation. Anyone who knows the scriptures knows this. Including you.
This shows an incredible naivety. More than half of the uses of the word refers to temporal dangers as what's being saved from.

It's this kind of carelessness (failure to rightly divide) that gets people in trouble when reading the Bible.
 
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This shows an incredible naivety. More than half of the uses of the word refers to temporal dangers as what's being saved from.

It's this kind of carelessness (failure to rightly divide) that gets people in trouble when reading the Bible.

Examples please?
 
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Calm down; put your spit balls away. I wanted to see where you stood.


Since you've used soul and spirit, what is the heart and mind?


So sinners today don't have the ability to properly worship God; this is their death, right? Is that your understanding? So sinners do not have to fear much; most don't want to worship God anyway.


Now what do you mean by regenerated? Is regeneration the reason the spirit doesn't sin? Those who are regenerated have the ability to properly worship God, right?
 
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This is just another huge assumption that being "cut off" means removing salvation. But this opinion cannot be supported from Scripture, so it remains just an assumption. Maybe even just a presumption.

Do you not know that being cut from God, is being cut off from the source of life?
 
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Do you not know that being cut from God, is being cut off from the source of life?

According to this guy it’s impossible to not be saved. If satan himself were human he would be saved.
 
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It seems the clear words of Scripture don't mean much to some. The word "everlasting" says it all. But one is free to deny reality if they want to.

It appears you think without you, life isn't eternal. Life is eternal whether you partake of it or not. Lose salvation, and life is still eternal. Anyone can do whatever they want, and life is still eternal. Just because you aren't part of it, doesn't mean life isn't eternal.
 
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This shows an incredible naivety. More than half of the uses of the word refers to temporal dangers as what's being saved from.

It's this kind of carelessness (failure to rightly divide) that gets people in trouble when reading the Bible.

Are you the only one who understands and isn't naive? Is everybody careless but you? Are you the only who can rightly divide the word?
 
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